Re: Tube amp for M22's
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Chris, the main point is the power requirement, which doesn't vary with the amplifier technology. He wants to know how many watts are necessary.
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Bob, you may want to contact some local audio shops which carry tube amps. They may have a used one and could demo it for you. If you go used, you should make sure the transformers are in good shape - absence of hum.
Although some disagree, in my opinion, a good tube amp, especially a Single End Triode type, just sound beautiful with the right speakers. The M3s are an easy load for a low power tube amp. I do not know why the M22s should present a more difficult load (their sensitivity rating is about the same) but they just do, or at least the pair I had did.
Tubes not only sound great, they also glow in the dark.
Some tube amps which I've heard and like very much:
Jolida, Antique Sound Labs, Prima Luna, Cary, Hafler, some older ones: Dynaco, The Fisher, H. H. Scott, Harman Kardon.
Good luck!!
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I'll take a guess and say the reason the M22s like a little more power might be due to the ~2ohm reading in the impedance curve around 4khz at least there was that dip on the older M22Ti's and I believe on the v2s as well..
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Jason, of course the effect of a lower impedance at certain frequencies is to require less, not more, power at those frequencies.
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Yes, but due to this ease of power flow it would be easier to hit max output with a low power amp and there is usually more distortion at max output. I think for for most people this would be viewed as the speakers require more power to avoid this situation.
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Audiogon listing You might want to look at this amp listed on Audiogon. Cayin has a pretty decent reputation but I have not heard this model. I am not affiliated with this seller.
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Cayin amp Fixed the link.
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I have heard that Cayin's are good too. One thing about buying amps. Are parts and service going to be available?
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Posted this elsewhere too. If you are looking for a tube sound, you can get it if you have a tube preamp instead of a tube amplifier. That way you don't have to worry about finding tubes with the power to drive speakers to their full potential. I have a DAC with an optional tube preamp output and it adds some of the tube "magic" I like hearing. Always an option to look down that route. Plus, getting a tube preamp/DAC means you can use it for almost any setup, including headphones
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For example a headphone amp like this above can also act as a tube preamp in a stereo speaker setup.
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