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I would definetely go with the M60 in-cabinet. You will still need 2 or 3 inches between the speaker fronts and the back of the screen. This means the screen itself should not be flush against the false wall, but you can build out around the edge of the screen area with some 2x2 or 2x4. Putting the screen against the front of the speakers will make the screen vibrate too much. (According to what I've heard everyone else say.)
Oh, and one more thing. Definetly use 3 M60's for L/C/R. This will give a better and more even sound field. A horrizontal center channel is a compromise design to allow for placement under/over the TV.
I too want to use a setup similar to this. Have you chosen which screen you are going to use? All of the AT screens I could find were very expensive. Especially the ones that claimed to not need any upper frequency boost. Very good point and I think I may do exactly what you suggest. Looking at Seymour AV CenterStage XD fabric. I've read nothing but positive comments about the fabric. I've also read 2" minimum space between speaker and this screen fabric. I would go DIY route to save some cost as well.
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I just looked them up here. It made me a little uneasy, when looking at their graph of frequency response. The speaker frequency response from about 15k to 20k hz was drastically raised in order to show a slower drop off after it passes through the screen. To me, it made it look like false advertising.
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I'm going based on what I have read from people whom have used the material. If concerned, I'm sure they (Chris) can provide you with a sample to test or answer your questions. there is an entire thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=842769 about this material. I have 2 samples (approx 6" X 9") but haven't run any tests myself ... nor do I know how 
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I don't understand why people would want to hide nice speakers behind a wall, I want to see my expensive speakers, but that is just me.  My speakers are about 6" away from my front wall. Just a matter of preference. For me I like the seamless look of a theater without seeing the speakers and just hearing them. Again, a matter of preference, but I don't need the speakers to look beautiful for my purpose - I just want them to sound good. I like the way my Axioms look, this the reason I went with Boston Cherry instead of black. I wanted to see the speakers and have them look more expensive than they really were. Now, with my new setup, I am going with a false front wall and an acoustically transparent screen. I want to have the audio nailed to the front image, while giving me a nice and clean front of my room. Also, to my wife's satisfaction, I will be able to hide my big SVS cylinder sub behind there. I will, however, set things up nicely and do the good old gimmick of having some lights behind the screen that can be turned on/off to make the front Axioms show up through the screen. To me, that is even a cooler effect.
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I will, however, set things up nicely and do the good old gimmick of having some lights behind the screen that can be turned on/off to make the front Axioms show up through the screen. To me, that is even a cooler effect.
I've see n this effect and it is WAY Cool!
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Here's a quote I read from the AVSforum link you provided. Hold a candle in front of the port, play at volume and bass that you would normally play at and see if it blows the candle out.
"Unless you could blow out a candle with the airflow, you won’t move the screen."
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I also noticed that several people said that you got a much better picture when you angled the fabric. This means that instead of mounting the fabric straight, with the weave going straight up and down and left and right, that you buy the fabric larger than you need and mount it so that the weave is now at an angle.
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Yep - that is the trick to avoid moire effect. I believe you can have the company cut the fabric at an angle already (not sure).
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I do not think you have the depth for any of towers unless you go with the foward ported in-wall / in-cabinet models. You could try two sets of M22's for the R/L. Use some industrial Velcro and stick them together end to end with the tweeters together. Then you'd have to brace them somehow to keep them from tipping.
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It looks like choice of backing material has a greater impact on sound quality, than this screen does. Including backing material improves blacks and colors, but at the loss of some audio quality.
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