As suggested I did try the Axiom out to the other sub and it worked just fine. I still don't know why the Ys won't work. One Y is an Acoustic Research and the other is Future Shop crap.
When I retire I'll have the time to sort out things like this... wait I am
John I checked all the connections many times, I still think it's something very basic. "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in our cables."
On a positive note my brother-in-law came over tonight and continued on with his quest to make me an opera fan.
Now it's not going to happen but we listened to a documentary on Anna Netrebko with the M60s and VP160, he simply could not believe how good her voice sounded on the speakers, said it was the best he ever heard.
And yes I ran Audyssey 3 times today.
thanks for the help.