Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners VP 100 match well with M60's?

I had M60's+VP150 for about 5 or so years..... i ALWAYS though that the 150 was to small of a speaker for the 60's.... i feel that i was right.. When the vp180 came out, i was one of the first group of people to get one.. There is a pretty long thread about the vp180... So.... With that being said, i think the vp100/M60 combo for movies and the such... No Bueno, you will have nice full speakers on the L/R and this little thing trying to do 70% of the dialog durring a movie!... i would say that the M50 VP100 would be a better matched combo due to the abilities of the speakers involved... Or an M50/vp150 setup...


Personally, with the M60's i would not want to go any smaller than the VP160..


With all of that being said, i have had my M60's/vp150 combo in many different "housing" situations, from apartments to houses (in a great room setup) to 10'X10' barracks rooms (Navy).... and the 150 ALWAYS seemed like the weak link even in a 100sq room!!!....


I will preface my post to having absolutely no regard for the cost of any of the products mentioned, only sonic matching in my opinion.

You can't preface at the end! Ha ha. But I know what you mean.

why not... i just did :P

I was going to say something about how it's just not done in polite society, but then I remembered where we are.

yeah.. i like to keep my writing light hearted here... i do enough academic writing as it is, where things like that actually matter....... so it is fun to break the rules... anyhow, if i would have actually started with a preface, would you have read what i took the time to craft???

Dear Folks:

When I made this post I figured I'd come back in a few days and maybe get a response or two...WOW! Didn't realize I was going to get so many responses and good ones at that!! Thank you for the warm, warm welcome and the opinions!! Muchas Gracias!! (For the record, my intention was not to start a fight or get community members to refer to each other (once again!?!) as fish! ;O) -- so my apologies.)

Speaking of Cheeseroo, thank you sir, it's great to hear that Axioms match so closely I wouldn't be able to notice anything abnormal when choosing the VP100 (which I have) with the M60's (will soon). I wonder if that has anything to do with--according to every review I've read, and really Axiom's opus moderandi -- the goal of producing speakers that are as transparent as possible? Perhaps if their goal was to color the speakers one way or another, matching between different lines/tiers would be more of a challenge?

By the way, my listening room is an average-sized living room (12x12 w/ 8ft ceiling) for my area (Arlington, VA - 2 minutes outside Washington, DC). Actually, it's smaller than that right now but we will be moving to a slightly larger home in the near future and that is the size. (Same neighborhood)

I could have mentioned that we don't listen to music or movies too loud (between -25 and -18dbc, if that makes sense?). Perhaps when my wife and three year old son are away--she's from Costa Rica, so they go there a few times each year while I work my arse off to pay for it ;O) )--I will be cranking it up a bit more. I guess as they say, when the cats are away the (audiophan) mice will play!

Also, to answer some of your questions regarding why I don't go for the VP150 or larger, it just comes down to finances for a while. I think price/value is a major reason I was turned on to Axiom in the first place. A friend swears by them; I head them at his house; and a few years later (now) I'm purchasing them for myself and family. I've been "dreaming" about it for a while. The decision comes down to M50's or M60's and I'm really leaning towards the later now. No, I'm going with them.

Murph, from PEI -- you didn't happen to go to college in Maine around the late 80's - early 90's, did you? I knew a real good guy whose last name was Murphy, but whom we called "Murph." I thought he was from Saint John, NB, but he may have been from PEI (great mussels -- the food from PEI, not Murph's arms, by the way). Just thought I'd ask. He was a druken Irish guy too but we all were back then because it was college. Well, some of us were drunken French guys too.

Rock Head..."I started off with the M60's, added a VP100, then finished off the 5.1 system with an EP350 and QS8's." That sentence pretty much sums up my goals! Were you happy with the results?

With Dakkon...I appreciate what you're saying, and as I mentioned in my original post, I don't want buyers remorse, but I think I'm sold on the M60's with the VP100. If after a year or so I need to get a bigger center channel rather than opt for smaller towers (M50's), I will write to you and say...I should have listened to you at the 'preface' wherever you may have out it. :O)

Finally, I listen to all sorts of music as I'm a recovering drummer. I guess the "all sorts" pretty much describes everyone's listening tastes these days but I mean it in a general way. Sure, I'm not into country or hip hop, but I certainly wouldn't begrudge either genres. All genres have good music and less than good in my opinion. I'm getting older so I just don't have time to listen to "less than" anymore, no matter the style.

Thank you once again. I like it here.

P.S. I promise not to be so verbose on all my posts.

If it's really just about finances and not space, I'd recommend a single M22 as a center vs. a VP100. I'm using one (between M80 mains) and find it very satisfying. I switched from a VP150. The single M22 will be slightly cheaper than a VP100, too, unless you were getting the VP100 some other way than new from Axiom.

+1 to what Charles said. If you can fit the vertical center I think it's a win win situation. You'll be cheaper out the door and have a 'better' center channel speaker. I started with a VP150 and ended up switching to an M2 for my center duties. No matter what you decide however, good luck and we'll be interested to hear your impressions once you set them up.

Cheers,

I would even say go with a single M2 if the tall M22 won't fit, there isn't much difference between the VP100 and M2 from a FR point of view but you get a wider dispersion pattern for better off axis listening.