Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Ok, you got $12K to spend ......

I have no subs ATM.
Currently I sit about 12 ft away.
that's the thing even at normal moderate levels with Music I just feel missing that little more bottom end. Maybe, I can boost that bass a bit.
Currently , I have a AVM30 so no ARC ( Audessy )

When I have the subs they will more than be enough for the room. I am the biggest the room will be is 17 x 23 x 9. if I build on the addition. I have a rec room area now, currently my daughters entertainment area. She's off to university in two years, this was going to be gutted and I was going to build a movie room there. However, it is only 12 x 18. So a bit too small and being 12 x 18 x 8 not the ideal dimensions. Pretty sure the three subs I am looking into will be more than adequate.

The bottom end punch I am talking about is in 2 vh and music listening.
I am not sure the levels, obviously for movies I am louder than normal tv levels.
music well it is louder than movies levels. And occasionally I like to turn it up abit more, but that's rare

My plans are to run 7.2 not sure of the atmos or DPLz yet.
Pro/Pro will be Anthem AVM60. Currently I have AVM30 running with a MCA50.
I will be using a MCA50 for Centre and the four surrounds and a MCA20 for the front L/R.

Well, guess I am staying with the M80v3 's
I just bought the VP180v3
next up is a quad set of qs8s'

Good call! Your money can go a lot further this way. Be sure to post pics once you are all set up.

well, for now ....I was listening to some music vid's today and was watching the MJ This is It.

Put it on Smooth Criminal to show a friend how awesome this is. Well that blew up I only had them on a above avg volume. I think I was at -7.5 db and the woofers were over exerting.

They never did this before and I have had the volume to +5db.
They claim these speakers are good for 400watts. I may of been 100watts if that.

I am now not sure if these speakers are what I need. If they are breaking up at that lower volume. It wasn't loud enough we couldn't talk to each other, then I am thinking I am going to need to re-invest in a better product.

With my modest Denon AVR, I listen to music Videos/SACDs/CDs in my medium size room at about -20 DB. Over than & it just gets too loud - over 90 DBs at my MLP.

For movies I run it at -15 to -10 DBs because that is all that my hearing & my house can stand.

Something doesn't seem right with your gear, room or perhaps the source material. It is doubtful that it is the speakers alone that are the culprit.

Again, you should try to measure your SPL at your MPL to see exactly how much you are achieving. If you don't have a dedicated SPL Meter, there are apps for cell phones that will give you a good approximation of your SPLs. I've used both types & they work pretty well...

TAM

Well ... tried for two days to get logged on. This website keeps resetting my password like ever 45 days. It's almost like it locks me out also. I have to do the reset password still doesn't work. I go into my office and try it there on Monday and it lets me in. And no I know my password, it's my daughters middle name. Last time it was her first name. That worked for a month or two, then I cannot log on. Reset it a few times, then it takes. I go into the settings and change it and it works about 45 days it seems.

OK
So, this weekend I downloaded a SPL meter to my I phone calibrated -15 db on my pre/pro to 75dbl on the SPL Meter.

I listen to movies about the 75db - 80db. That's because probably I only have 2ch now. The VP180 is enroute hopefully today. So maybe it will be 70 - 75 db SPL

Music either DVD or CD I listen around 85db - 90db SPL

If I am in the mood and for the songs I really like I go to 90 - 95db on the spl meter
Now when I put in Michael Jackson This Is It for example.
Jam
Way You Make Me feel
Beat It

if I have the sound at 90dbl it is ok, the kik drum goes thumppp ... not as pronounced as I like but, it is there. I wish I could just boost this up like 3 db
If I turn it up on these songs to 95db - 98 db that kik is now Pfff . You can tell it is at it's limit.

Now these speakers are spose to be rated 400 watts. I am no where near 400 watts. I'm probably no where near even turned on.

I have a Anthem MCA50 with just two of the channels used 385w per channel this is.

I have a Anthem AVM30 Pre/Pro.

It looks like you listen at about the same levels that I and probably most people do. We need to know how far back your MLP is located from the M80s. If it is at the rear of your room, it takes a lot of power to attain those levels back there.

I guess that some M80 owners will have to help out here as I don't have those; however, I do know that using a sub or 2 will relieve the towers from the heaviest bass duties & clean up the sound plus will easily give you the level of bass sound that you want. Decent subs dialed in correctly will not sound boomy or flabby.

Of course, that does not tell us why your M80s/system are acting that way unless they are being driven to their limits to produce your desired SPLs at a long distance (if that is the case).

A long shot might be if that particular source material has a bunch of distortion embedded in it that only reveals itself at higher than normal levels.

Interesting condition...

TAM

I am 13ft away.
this is in my living room,
13.5 x 18. it is split entry so another 6ft. So, 13.5 x 24'

the speakers are about 9ft apart.