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Me thinks the watts you are giving them are not clean. There is no way you can give them 120 to 140 clean watts from a receiver. Absolutely no way!

The M22s are easier to drive. Do you have the speakers crossed over to a sub?

http://www.soundandvision.com/content/marantz-sr7008-av-receiver-test-bench#b4C1MIjP0jUFIuAi.97

Yes, my speakers are crossed at 90hz.90 down going to a fathom f113.

What a behemoth!

If you are driving only 2 channels, then it could be the music you are feeding the speakers contains distortion that is revealed by the M5HP but not the M22 or your receiver is pooched or Axiom messed up the M5HP.

If you are cranking up the power to 120 to 140 W, your receiver is running out of headroom. At 120W, you have less than 3dB of headroom. I can't find any photos of the capacitors to judge how much headroom the receiver may have but it's pretty crowded in that chassis and I am sure there isn't much capacitance.

Take a look at the capacitor bank in the ADA-1500 and you will see what I mean. Or one of the Bryston power amps.

http://bryston.com/images/products/28B3/L_4.jpg

Maybe you can retrofit one of these cap banks into your audio system

http://scott-eng.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/poleline-gallery-06.jpg

I made more progress last night. I reviewed all configuration and even though I had audyssey turned off the front and left channels were set as -7db and -6.5db. I reset the entire receiver and I am in much better state now. These speakers are amazing and the receiver gives me enough power and regular listening volumes but I am still seriously considering giving them more for them to reach their full potential in the future. My axiom m80 v4's are running from an external amp now so I know there are differences giving speakers more watts and dynamic headroom.

Nice to hear. Interested to know your thoughts on M22 vs these as I'll be making the same switch once I receive mine.

Wonder how Chris made out over the weekend with his.

Shipping notification any day now, right Axiom?

9:27 AM - spiroh posts "but I am still seriously considering giving them more for them to reach their full potential in the future. My axiom m80 v4's are running from an external amp now"

9:28 AM - M5HPs are sitting upside-down on top of no-longer-connected M80s and are enjoying the external amp

Spiroh, I was ready to trade in my M80v2 for the M5HP. I would be interested in your thoughts between the two.

LOL. That will be my next step but I have to unmount the M5HP and get them moved over to the other location. I promise I will do that soon.

I think the 'stupid loud' you hear IS distortion. I did a test with a 100 watt per channel receiver connected to my M3's vs a powered 210 watt per channel monitor speaker. My hearing perceptions were that the M3's sounded louder with less power but did not sound bad at all. However, putting them up on a Sound pressure level the monitor speaker pair tested higher even though my perception was they were quieter but I think it was due to it having so much more power it was not distorting and I think my ears at least interprets distortion that is not horrible as being louder.