Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater M80ti's small room.

I'm pretty sure he knows its a compromise heading in. Its all relative. It sounds great till you can do a little better.

If you have a look at his original post, he asked "Are my m80s too big for this room?"

That tells me he doesn't know.

I have lived in a lot of different houses over a 40 year span and they were all different sizes, from 1000sq ft apartments to 3500 sq/ft houses and one thing remained the same, the size of my speakers. I would rather have large speakers in a small room than buy small speakers and end up with a big room. Big speakers can work a lot better in a small room than small speakers in a big room and speakers are damn expensive and not something i buy willy nilly. So for the OP unless your future has you in a small room forever get the M80's they work well and you have them for when things change which the often do.

Chaos already has M80s which is why I recommended he trade them in. He is not buying them.

And if his subs are ported as he indicated, he should trade those in for sealed particularly since he'll be in a smallish room. Chaos, I lived with the 600v2 for a decade and I deeply regret it. You can read about my nightmare and subsequent discovery of Nirvana in my EP800 review. Go with a 500v4 which is sealed. When you hear it, you will be a changed man.

Socketman's reasoning for large speakers is, by his own admission from his last post, purely a choice of economics. My reasoning for M5HPs is purely for an improved sonic experience.

Also remember this: the M5HPs incorporate many learnings since what I surmise are older, maybe M80v2s that you have. The M5HPs were designed from a preponderance of a modern methodology of family of curves, improved cross-over engineering, all new drivers, improved mid-range baffle and improved cabinet design. All in all, the engineering that went into the M5HPs is far more mature than the engineering that went into the M80v2.

Oh...and the M5HPs were recently reviewed against a floorstander at three times the price and they were similarly good. And as Craig Chase has said, M5HPs with an Axiom sealed sub, forms a $10,000 speaker-killer system. If you don't know Craig, he is the omniscient grand poobah of audio gear comparisons.

and he is in a new house and i highly doubt its the last house. You already have the M80's just put them in the room and see how you like them. Make sure to add some treatments to the room ,you will see more improvement from properly treating the room than changing out the speakers.

If you just put the M80s in there, you'll like them because you have no basis for comparison.

Your treatments for M5HPs and a sealed sub will be simpler and fewer in number and may consist of nothing more than stuff you already have like art and a bookcase. And do not over-treat. The Axiom gear relies on reflected sound to portray a sense of spaciousness.

Read my 800 review. The sealed sub made my whole system sound better no matter where I sit!

If your crossing over at 80 hz or above there will be little differnce since both speakers share the same drivers. Plus you wont have to spend extra cash buying stands to get the speakers up at ear level the M80's are already there.If its too much just disconnect one tweeter and that is free. No need for an HP speaker if the bass is handled by the subs.

The M80ti doesn't have the same type of drivers or the same number of drivers as the M5HP.

BTW, the M5 comes with an HP driver; there's no choice in the matter. The HP drivers are more linear in magnitude and phase throughout their entire SPL range compared to the standard drivers. What I don't know is how audible that linearity is at lower power levels. Even with an 80 Hz cross-over to the sub and at 4W/channel, my M80v2 woofers are quite active.

The tweeters are in shunt. Disconnecting one will alter the response of the other because the cross-over will see a higher output impedance.

Also, the reason for dual tweeters is for reaching higher sound pressure levels. If you disconnect one, at higher power levels you could thermally over-load the other. At best, it would sound distorted. At worst, it could permanently fail.

He is not unhappy with his current setup so no need to spend money on new speakers and i know the M5 is hp and if he is using a sub then he has no need for them. Your advocating for more bass in one breath then telling him 2 500's are too much in the next. If he is looking for an excuse to buy new stuff thats fine but he doesnt need to replace perfectly good speakers. Different doesnot translate to better.

Chaos hasn't said if (s)he's happy or unhappy with the current set-up. Not that it matters. What matters is the future set-up. Chaos specifically asked if "...m80s too big for this room?"

I am not advocating for more bass. I am advocating for improved speakers and sub whose designs are more commensurate with his room size and include more linear bass.