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#429349 - 04/25/18 11:32 PM Network Stereo Receiver Advice
guillermo123 Offline
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I'm looking to purchase a new stereo receiver (with hdmi and network capabilities) to power my M22 v2 speakers (still going strong after 9 years!). I can only find two products that offer the features I will need: (1) the Onkyo tx-8270 and (2) the Pioner Elite sx-s30 (see the links below).

I'm wondering if anybody on the forum has experience in comparing these two models. How about general impressions on product reliability for either Onkyo or the Pioneer Elite line?

The feature sets are near identical, however, it appears that the Onkyo has significantly more power. The power specifications that Pioneer Elite provides seem a little odd (85 W/ch (4 ohms, 1 kHz, THD 1.0 %, 1ch Driven). In a real world situation, would the Pioneer Elite provide sufficient power to run my M22 speakers? I use the speakers for music and movies and I listen at relatively low volume levels.

I prefer the small form factor of the Pioneer Elite, however, I want to make sure they provide sufficient power for the speakers. Any advice or comments are appreciated. Thanks.


https://www.onkyousa.com/Products/model....ource=prodClass

https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/2-Channel+Components/SX-S30

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#429383 - 04/30/18 05:06 AM Re: Network Stereo Receiver Advice [Re: guillermo123]
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The Pioneer could be as low as around 25 watts per channel into 8 ohms with two channels driven. That is getting pretty low given there is not likely much in the way of dynamic headroom above that.
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#429391 - 05/02/18 12:56 PM Re: Network Stereo Receiver Advice [Re: guillermo123]
guillermo123 Offline
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Great. Thank you for the additional information Ian. Sounds like I should narrow my search to the Onkyo.

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#429426 - 05/05/18 04:48 PM Re: Network Stereo Receiver Advice [Re: guillermo123]
JohnK Offline
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William, there's no good reason to restrict your search to a 2-channel unit. Multi channel receivers are sold in far larger numbers and their price benefits from economies of scale. They're required by the FTC amplifier power regulations to state their power specs with two channels driven, and make suitable choices for powering stereo speaker systems(with a possibility for future surround speakers being added for greater music appreciation).

Since you're in the U.S. an excellent source is Accessories4less, which specializes in factory refurbished receivers, which should be, if anything, even more reliable than a brand-new unit.

An excellent buy should be this Integra upscale Onkyo brand-mate , which should be ample for your needs.

Incidentally, hope that you were able to do some classical music listening, as we briefly discussed a few years ago.
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#429434 - 05/08/18 12:00 PM Re: Network Stereo Receiver Advice [Re: guillermo123]
TDIPablo Offline
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Loc: Ottawa, Ontario
Originally Posted By guillermo123
I'm looking to purchase a new stereo receiver (with hdmi and network capabilities)


Why do you want HDMI capabilities for a 2-ch system when a digital optical/coaxial connection would be more than adequate? Dropping the HDMI requirement would open up your choices to NAD, Rotel, Emotiva, Outlaw Audio, etc that all provide better power dynamics...

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#429436 - 05/09/18 09:54 AM Re: Network Stereo Receiver Advice [Re: guillermo123]
TDIPablo Offline
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If HDMI is a must, another candidate to look at would be the Arcam SR250...

https://www.arcam.co.uk/products,FMJ,Stereo-AV-Receiver,sr250.htm

90wpc 8ohm but you also have pre-outs to add external amplification if you want MORE!

I'm considering the Arcam AVR550 (or higher models) myself as a future upgrade once I get my VP180OW if my Onkyo can't handle it.

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