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#430508 - 11/19/18 10:59 PM Re: Black Friday 2018 [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
I think the M5s would work well for you as rears. Do you really need 2? My Onk permits a single rear. How far from the MLP are your M5 sides BTW?


The sides are roughly 8' away.

Like your Onkyo, my Marantz can set 1 or 2 rears, which I suppose I could also mess with. I feel like way back in the day when I had a single rear surround, there was more of a coming-from-the-front effect to the sound from that channel.

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#430509 - 11/20/18 12:39 AM Re: Black Friday 2018 [Re: CV]
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The M5 as you know has very broad dispersion. One located behind the MLP may do the trick. You could use the other for height if the Marantz supports a single height channel.

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#430511 - 11/20/18 06:58 PM Re: Black Friday 2018 [Re: CV]
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I've been thinking of that LFR180. I think it might be the missing link to getting that BIG theater dialogue. My 160 is very clear but it doesn't project a sense of space because it can't! No centre can because it's not installed by side walls to take advantage of lateral reflections. But there's a wall right behind every centre and that's what the LFR180 takes advantage of. I bet it sounds SPACIOUS.

I'm starting to despise Axiom even more now because since getting the v4, I now hear just how important the relationship is between the listening window and sound power curves. It's that relationship that results in a sense of space/holography. The LFR raises that sound power curve right from the lowest frequency due to the extra drivers. The DSP then steers front/rear power to effectively control the ratio of direct vs. reflected power within a tight band. This results in even more "air" and "space". It also adjusts the delay between front and rear most likely.

Charles, the LFR180 may actually give you a bigger improvement!

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#430514 - 11/20/18 11:56 PM Re: Black Friday 2018 [Re: CV]
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My rear surround makes absolutely no difference in music and movies. Get the LFR180.

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#430515 - 11/21/18 12:39 AM Re: Black Friday 2018 [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
My rear surround makes absolutely no difference in music and movies. Get the LFR180.


I already have my order in, and they're working on it. I'll make it happen another time.

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#430516 - 11/21/18 01:04 AM Re: Black Friday 2018 [Re: Mojo]
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Holographic is a good term for the imaging heard.
It's certainly more than just stereo sound.
I have to wonder how the M5 would compare but I can't swallow the loss on my trades.
Guess I'll have to keep suffering, bwahahaha.
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#430518 - 11/21/18 01:23 AM Re: Black Friday 2018 [Re: CV]
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Had I known the v4 sounds this way, I'd have upgraded 4 years ago.

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#430523 - 11/23/18 07:27 PM Re: Black Friday 2018 [Re: CV]
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Originally Posted By CV
I already have my order in, and they're working on it. I'll make it happen another time.


They're quick. I got a shipment notification today, and they still haven't responded to my email. For those who've done the trade-up, I assume I can purchase shipping boxes and prepaid shipping labels from them for the ones I'm sending in? I'm sure I can make something work, but I'd feel better about them going in the containers that are designed for them.

Also, I didn't think they'd be so fast since I ordered from the Factory Outlet, and with the promotion going on. Nice work, Axiom!

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