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Of course! Conrad Johnson MV60SE with KT120s. Jadis JPL preamp (tube), Parasound JC3+ phono stage.
I have heard demos at Excel Audio with solid state amps, Pass Labs, Luxman (love that Luxman), Berenger ... cabling makes a difference.
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And what speakers are you driving with that pentode amp?
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I can't specifically find Montana PBNs on this site: https://pbnaudio.com/
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I misspoke earlier because I forgot you run tube gear. Your tube amp is relatively high impedance compared to a solid state amp and your speakers are low impedance. It's a really bad combo and any improvements in the cable, will make a big difference.
The fancy cable is not only 1/6 of the DC resistance of the Belden, its equivalent capacitance and inductance is also lower. That will make a difference in the highs of your system.
How big of a difference does the fancy cable make over your Belden? How about 1dB big for voltage seen at your speaker terminals? That's significant and it's about 10% of the voltage sourced from your tube amp. If the amp was pumping out 50 Watts, only 40W was making it to your speakers!
Now I really do recommend you try 8 AWG cable and save some bucks.
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That's an interesting thought... some fancy amplifiers might need fancy cables. I hadn't considered that before.
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If those speakers weren't hovering around 2 Ohms, it wouldn't be such a problem.
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Thanks guys. Wow. It's good to know stuff.
So, I could have put the large chunk of change I paid for the cables toward a solid state amp, and I could have used 8 gauge vacuum cleaner cord.
Come to me my Luxman!!
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