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#433066 - 08/20/19 09:34 PM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: Ian]
Mojo Offline
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That would be a very interesting comparison. Who do you speculate would come out on top?
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#433067 - 08/20/19 09:40 PM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
That would be a very interesting comparison. Who do you speculate would come out on top?


The Magico speakers were quite good - But they didn't seem to live up to the hype. It is hard to even speculate - The store is 100 miles away from my place. It was funny though, when I explained that Axiom makes Bryston's speakers, and that the Bryson line up is worth looking at, the manager just got irritated.
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#433068 - 08/20/19 09:51 PM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: Ian]
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Hmmm...would that Magico set-up be 16.7 times as good as the LFR set-up? Where's Mattman?
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#433069 - 08/20/19 09:51 PM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: Ian]
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High end audio seems to be a lot like high end anything else only more so ...
One pays a very large tax for “pride of ownership” which should not be confused with performance

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#433070 - 08/20/19 09:57 PM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: Ian]
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Axiom is high end audio. They sound like high end audio.
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#433071 - 08/20/19 10:07 PM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: rrlev]
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Originally Posted By rrlev
High end audio seems to be a lot like high end anything else only more so ...
One pays a very large tax for “pride of ownership” which should not be confused with performance


This is true - high end audio is probably the worst. This store also sells Goldenear - the dullest sounding high end speaker I ever heard. Before he got pissed at me, the manager and I had a laugh that over half of their Goldenear speakers sold were based on reviews and the customers didn't even listen to them.

The Magico stuff is ALL about snob appeal.
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#433072 - 08/20/19 10:24 PM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: Mojo]
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Mojo ... let me see if I can narrow that down ... esoteric high end ... usually highly marketed, usually visually stunning with fine workmanship and over the top materials, usually in limited supply, sometimes lunatical in function, and always priced beyond the reach of the typical guy (at least with any sanity) as the price justifies its value ...

maybe someone else can come up with a better def

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#433073 - 08/20/19 10:30 PM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: Ian]
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Hmmmm...yeah...high end is not necessarily synonymous with high fidelity.
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#433074 - 08/21/19 12:13 AM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: Ian]
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I'm chilling with my M50s by candlelight while thumbing my new Opinel no. 8. Low end audio has never sounded so good!
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#433075 - 08/21/19 06:45 AM Re: LFR1100 Active [Re: Ian]
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I'm looking again at the curves Ian posted. They're a real piece of work. Declining 3dB/decade from 100Hz to 20KHz.

Besides this, I still can't get over the fact that each active LFR will be capable of somewhere between 124dB and 130dB dynamically at 3 feet. The ADA-1500 should easily be able to deliver the requisite 4800W. The 1500 I have is peaking out at 2800W on my M100s and those of course have an analog crossover which presents more load. As I've said before, that 2800W I'm measuring may not be a true peak due to my meter.
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ADA-1000-2,3,1500-3
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