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#432482 - 06/07/19 09:56 AM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
bman84 Offline
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Originally Posted By Mojo
This is sub-bass excursion, M100 style. LOL!

video --> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-NnWo61RUvVFabKlDj0z_gd7jyYuQFpt


That is nuts! Are those HP woofers? What kind of SPL were you experiencing during that clip?
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#432483 - 06/07/19 11:12 AM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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Hey bman, how's it going? Are you still liking your system?

Yes, HP woofers on the M100v4.

It was hitting 112 dBC peaks at 11 feet away. When I tried to get it higher, the ADA-1000 self-protected. I haven't tried the ADA-1500 yet.

I think though I'm reaching the compression limit of the M100v4. What may be saving the M100 and allowing it to reach that level is the fact that the bass isn't "constant" if you know what I mean.

I don't want to give anyone the impression that they can listen to a tune like this with the M100v4 and get all the music. No, no! You need a sub that gets down to 10Hz for that. But there is a lot of bass coming through and what comes through is quite clean and loud.

Surprisingly, it is not difficult to listen at that SPL for this tune. I find it gets harder to listen to high SPLs when there's a lot of high mids/low highs. I suppose that makes sense if you look at the Fletcher-Munson curves.
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#432484 - 06/07/19 11:27 AM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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Yep, although not getting as much viewing/listening time in now that my pool is open. 112 is massive. Your theory makes sense. There's enough time in between peaks for those caps to juice back up. With the ADA's, is it safe to say that if you're not tripping self-protection, then you're not missing anything, and the amp is sufficiently powerful?
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#432485 - 06/07/19 12:57 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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You're not missing anything with the ADAs when they're not tripping. I can attest to the specified peak power levels on the 1000 and 1500.

Now check out the M5s without and with a sub. You can hear HP driver artifacts without the sub for sub-bass at 107dB SPL from 13 feet away. This is a very extreme condition. It's amazing the drivers are staying in tact...LOL! You don't hear those artifacts with the M100v4. Incidentally these are dual M5s in parallel which is a 3 Ohm load in the low end and a 2 Ohm load in the mids.

These ADAs and speakers are the real deal!

no sub
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-WQbTRG5ltCmfI81AQdOBu9pCOqFzyuN/view?usp=drivesdk

With sub
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Z0f_2UGzdEPuUpnIo8U4XUIUBD-xXHv/view?usp=drivesdk
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#432486 - 06/07/19 01:08 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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What are you playing ... and what planet is it from?

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#432487 - 06/07/19 01:26 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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It's from the planet Gottalotobottom. smile

Ah ONLii lIsTenn 2 Dat $TUfFFF wEN ah'm RoLlin Witt Da HOMiess Orrr BUstin uhp Ian'$ GeAr Yo.

Bass Mekanik: Lo & Slo Remix
https://open.spotify.com/track/5wOAwjE3AWCsFPOGUD2uH6
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#432491 - 06/07/19 05:02 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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Last time I saw woofers do a dance like that (your dance was definitely better) was when some audiophile was showing off his stuff (like 30+ years ago). He seemed very proud of the fact that his woofers were keeping time with the warp of the record ... I was like "that's very cool" while having "that's very stupid" bubble thoughts ...

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#432493 - 06/07/19 05:22 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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Sweet those drivers going so quick.
If you like lots of low end you should check out DJ Magic Mike. Back in the 90s when we would get his tapes they came with a warning. Extremely low base will damage speakers.

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#432495 - 06/07/19 05:44 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: rrlev]
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Originally Posted By rrlev
I was like "that's very cool" while having "that's very stupid" bubble thoughts ...


Exactly! laugh
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#432496 - 06/07/19 06:19 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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I'm listening to DJ Magic Mike on the M50s. Good bass demo tunes.
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