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Axiom 2 Channel / 4 Channel Super System
#432141 05/11/19 02:05 AM
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Hi Guys - We have a pair of almost 4 year old LFR-1100's. They are running in our high end, 2 channel system. We tried them as part of a 5.1 system, but later took the M50's back speakers and VP180 HP and combined them with the M100's in our main theater.

The reason for this is the 1100's throw such a large sound stage and a terrific image from any listening position that the center wasn't needed, and the rear channels were not quite up to the fronts.

With the introduction of the LFR-1100 actives, we are seriously thinking about running a 4.2 system with Dual LFR-1100 actives in the front, dual LFR-1100's rear, ADA-1500's all around (a total of 14 channels - 5 each for the fronts, 2 each for the rear) and a pair of EP800's for bass.

Ian and I have been emailing about the idea, and we are waiting for his thoughts on LFR-1100's for the rears along with the phantom center idea for movie use.

Most listening in this room is music, as most movies are on our 120 inch screen, M100/VP180HP/M50 system (with an EP800 for bass).

While this system will be expensive in "Axiom terms," compared to other high end systems, it's actually very affordable.

Any thoughts?

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craigsub #432144 05/11/19 03:01 AM
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True some speakers alone cost more than proposed system. Would very much enjoy reading your thoughts with such a super system. Your room could probably rival most concerts with so much power.

Would this room continue to be more music?

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brendo #432145 05/11/19 03:22 AM
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Brendo - It would be more music. I have never had a music system that had 5 channel stereo that sounded good. The Pre/Pro is a Marantz 7703, which Ian thinks is a keeper.

It would be interesting to see (hear) if the system would make me a convert for the 5 channel music discs.

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craigsub #432146 05/11/19 03:32 AM
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Craig, would the dual 1100s be stacked on top of each other?


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Lol ... Only you. laugh

The passives would be the rear channels, the actives in the front.

In the emails with Ian, he was fascinated enough to want to test two ideas:

1. Are the 1100's so good in the front that a center isn't needed for a great front stage?

2. How will 1100's handle being the rear channels? They would be placed so the main sides were facing the front of the room and the back sides the back of the room - mirror image to the fronts.

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craigsub #432149 05/11/19 05:29 AM
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Cool that's my wonder as well. How awesome could SACD\concert footage be? Would you daisy one of the channels? Isn't 13.2 the highest Denon/Marantz processing?

Isn't the proper placement plus Phantom center strategies enough for the 1100s center already?

Sorry so many questions. Sounds like a lot of fun.
Complete massive emersion. At a still in reality price. As opposed to some of the equipment you'd go too see at say Axpona and other shows.

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craigsub #432150 05/11/19 05:59 AM
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I suppose I'll forever be etched in your memory as the Mad Stacker. smile

I don't have any thoughts about your ideas but since you will have so many speakers, you need to try stacking them. laugh


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BTW, I could be wrong but judging from the photos on the active LFR1100 page, it appears the LFR1100s are no longer angled on the back.


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Hi Mojo,

The back angle is still there. It is hard to tell that from the photo though.


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Thank you, Ian.


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