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Yup. I've spent some time listening to two different configurations: 1. the one above which is subs wide open and DSP crossover at 40 Hz and 2. subs at 40Hz and LFRs wide open.

The first configuration sounds fuller but lacks some mid-bass snap. The second configuration is not as full but has a nice snap to it. I kinda like both...LOL.

I'm going to try fooling around with the flat/boost switch.

Boost is way too much in the living room. One and two above are both very good depending on mood.

BTW, this is what I use to judge musical bass.

https://open.spotify.com/track/5kHlvtGBiLEPcUBhd35CSj?si=ZDye3aP7ToO0OKU7Nqp9tA

I have great bass with the 800v4 downstairs. A complete dream compared to my 600v2 smiling clown I had to stuff three pillows into the pie hole of. Sorry, Craig. That damned thing was right out of Stephen King's IT. I read the holy scriptures to it, got Stephanos the Orthodox priest in to sprinkle holy juice on it but it didn't work. Many times I thought of pulling out my treasured Smithfield Armoury 0.45 and blasting it right in the maw.

Then came that blessed 800 and I found such bliss. It sounded like manna from heaven right out of its box. I shivered and undulated as that bass permeated the aether betwixt my quarks. My 'nads felt good too.

These 500s in my living room though, they are speaking a far more nuanced bass alphabet. The 800 can't do in my cursed basement what the dual 500s are doing in what is turning out to be my holy living room.

So I have a brilliant effin' idea. The living room can be my music room and the basement can be movies. Now to add four more feet of depth to my living room for an even deeper soundstage.

Rich, when you get yours, listen to this. This is not imagining. It's imaging.

https://open.spotify.com/track/14TOo8SQP8YkAC4ExlvDaM?si=zk2LHGweRym02fDOHAydDA

This -34 on the Pioneer, and 10 foot distance from the A-LFRs and dual 500s is giving me close to 100dB peaks. My headroom is absolutely sick!

What's real interesting is as I turn up the volume, I end up over-loading the room with the subs. I don't have that problem with LFR bass. The subs are too much for this space. Sounds real sweet though on my regular, -34 gain.

So with the LFRs and a sub, it is possible to have too much amp and too much bass!

Drop the subs to 0 dB against the Actives - you like to crank it up. As you crank it up, your system starts to hear the bass on a more linear basis. Check what it sounds like then.

Whoa! I made a huuuuge mistake. The DSP bass management always sends full signal to the sub. It acts as a cutoff for the LFRs. So I set the DSP to 40 and the sub to 40 and it sounds very natural now. LOL!

Tomorrow I'll have to retune it per the steps in my previous post...which are now incorrect.

From Ian:

"We have kept the control on the DSP so it only affects the LFR1100. The output to the sub is always full range. This allows you maximum control as the LFR1100 and the sub are controlled separately; the LFR1100 from the DSP, and the sub from the crossover adjust on the sub. Setting the crossover to 0 on the DSP would mean the LFR1100 is running full range but it would have no affect on the output to the sub."

Excellent! Now I can start trash talking you into dual EP800's.

That won't work. It will block the show for the neighbors.