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Re: Ceiling Speakers for Atmos
PaulHa #437271 06/25/20 12:08 PM
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No, wife already nixed that also. Thanks for everyone's feedback.

Re: Ceiling Speakers for Atmos
PaulHa #437272 06/25/20 02:49 PM
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The in-walls come with paintable grills. I've seen them blend in very well.


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Re: Ceiling Speakers for Atmos
Mojo #437273 06/25/20 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
They also fall short in the mids. M2s are much better.

The in-ceiling also fall short in the highs due to the tweeter being behind the mounting plane.
Yeah, when I said low end ... I was including 125hz on down ... I'm still looking at this ... there is also something going on above that. The quick and dirty RTA I did confirmed what I was hearing (done in the kitchen which is a fairly large space). I have not really have had time to dig deeper. I'd like to run it again with a better setup (as the quick and dirty part was sending the sweep over bluetooth and a less then ideal mic placement).

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Re: Ceiling Speakers for Atmos
PaulHa #437274 06/25/20 04:23 PM
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As I have said before, the second biggest pleasant surprise to me in my Axiom journey is the bookshelf M2. The first biggest pleasant surprise is the M2OW.


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Re: Ceiling Speakers for Atmos
PaulHa #437280 06/25/20 07:26 PM
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Axiom has some great speakers. Was listening to some of the albums Andrew suggested somewhere. The M22 / EP500 combo is quite impressive.

On the M2s (which BTW I'm getting solely on your recommendation ... ok, my wife also wanted something small) ... one of the pair has arrived but the other has been stuck in FedEx's Memphis, TN limbo facility since May 13th. I'll tell ya what I think if and when I get it.

The M3ow were a big surprise ... incredibly close to an M3 (which I really like and recommend for anyone who wants a smaller bookshelf without a sub.) The only downside to the on-walls is amiability which might be mitigated with a FMB.

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PaulHa #437281 06/25/20 07:32 PM
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Did you get the bookshelf or OW M2s? I have both.

BTW, the M3 bookshelves were wayyyyyyyy too bloated-sounding in the bass department for my living room (12x22x8 and open to the rest of the house). No matter how I placed them, I had to cut the bass by over 20dB and they still sounded fat.

The M2 bookshelves and OW do not suffer from that problem. And the mids are OhSoSweet.


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Re: Ceiling Speakers for Atmos
SirQuack #437282 06/25/20 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SirQuack
I have no complaints in sound quality of the M3Cs for Atmos they are the bomb. Even in music mode on my Anthem they sound fine.
I take it that ARC is on ...

Re: Ceiling Speakers for Atmos
PaulHa #437283 06/25/20 08:27 PM
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I usually have ARC Genesis running for most of my inputs. I do go back/forth now and then to compare the differences.


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Mojo #437284 06/25/20 09:44 PM
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Mojo, only on-wall version I have are M3.

As far as the M3 bookshelfs bass being overblown I just have not have had an issue. For me, the bass bump adds enough oomph for it to stand alone. There is also a subtle difference in the mid-highs between the M3 and M22 ... the M3 is more tamed if you will. As I said before ... it's a very pleasant sounding speaker.

The M22 is more unapologetic and It presents what's its given, ahhh unapologetically, but, as we discussed in other threads, needs a low end supplement.

Re: Ceiling Speakers for Atmos
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I didn't need any correction for the active LFRs in my living room. They sounded marvelous. I needed over 20dB bass correction for M3, 6dB for M50, 15dB for M5 and M100s were uncorrectable.

M2OW and M2 bookshelves don't need any correction either in the living room. And they are wall-to-wall soundstage whereas the actives only give me depth and width just between them.

The actives in the basement are a different story. That's another thread. I just spent 3 weeks eliminating position error.


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