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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439868 11/25/20 05:11 PM
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Considering trading in the 180 for a 160. If I do that it'll allow me to get the QS10s too. Decisions decisions.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439869 11/25/20 05:22 PM
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If you don't do it, how will you ever know? You already know you need the QS10s.


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Re: M100s?
Canesfan27 #439874 11/26/20 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CanesFanInVA
Considering trading in the 180 for a 160. ... Decisions decisions.

The QS10's are excellent ... I have them in a 5.1 setup (w/ M2 fronts, VP150ow center, and EP500) and I have not been wanting as far as sound goes (considering the room and it's function). It's worth stretching a bit.


If the answer to the next question is only a difference of $$ then the decision is easy:
What does the 180 give you that the 160 does not ... and do you need it?
(The reverse is also true ...)

It seems that all the V4 centers are pretty good (although I can't speak for the VP100). I have the 180 and would not hesitate to recommend it. Given the high praise of the 160 by people I trust here I would not hesitate to get that either. The VP150 get's diss'ed here a lot but I'm convinced that's because everyone is referring to pre V4 versions .... the 150V4 on-wall, in the 5.1 setup above, is a fantastic match with the M2's. I'd recommend that as well.

Besides the money, I think the center decision comes down to the size of your screen and the size of the room you want to fill. The 180 is huge and I'm pretty sure you would not want it under a 40" TV. It's an excellent choice for something like a projection screen. The 160 has a vertical requirement to consider.
The 150 in my mind fits visually with most tv's today. IMO the on-wall versions are the way to go if you care about the visual appearance or having any space to place your equipment on. So far, I've been very impressed by the on-wall versions of Axiom speakers ...

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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439876 11/26/20 03:40 AM
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The on-walls are another one of these big secrets. If prospects knew how good they sounded, they'd go for them over floor-standers. But they have less macho man factor and that's important for some.

I'd like to see active LFROW.


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Re: M100s?
Mojo #439878 11/26/20 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
I'd like to see active LFROW.
You'll have to install some virtual walls first ...

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In the j-plane. smile


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Re: M100s?
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Actually, it might be possible with M100ow + some combo "reflection" speakers ...
Guess Axiom will have to create it's own surround system.

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volume...volume... volume... folks.... i'm pretty sure it's why the M2 on walls get such high praise! I've just ordered two from Ian and plan to order at least two more sets after auditioning them. imho, it's all about cabinet volume.


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Rebulx, I don't know if you'll like them. They don't have balsy bass. I suppose you know that from the M2 bookshelves. That's nothing an EP600 can't fix though. And the spectrum on up is clean and involving.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439921 11/30/20 06:45 AM
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I don't expect the M2 on walls to have any bass, at all. Probably will be crossed over at 90-100hz, maybe higher. I hope they will be excellent additions as the upper presence speakers.


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