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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #442947 07/26/21 02:32 PM
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I think you must go to different concerts than I do.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #442954 07/26/21 10:47 PM
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Movies are on another level.


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Re: M100s?
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The m5s haven’t sounded that good since I ran them as fronts.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #442960 07/26/21 11:02 PM
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Yeah. The M5s need a ton of power. I do think they image better than M100s but don't sound as real instruments and voices as much as the M100s.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #442962 07/26/21 11:56 PM
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I’m not use to hearing surround sounds at low volumes. So many sounds in the movies I didn’t hear before are now audible. I’ll have some time this weekend to re-run audyssey and make a few manual adjustments. Music doesn’t get fatiguing at higher volume. Everything is extremely clean sounding. The muddy sounds at -10 are gone and music is satisfying at -20 even across the room. I lost some of the soundstage and imaging but I think that’s due to the avr being uncalibrated. I am assuming the level adjustments will come down due to the extra power.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #442963 07/26/21 11:59 PM
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Once the room is complete I’ll pull the trigger on the actives. Working on an area right now to house the audio rack and changing a few things to accommodate 4 subs. We are moving the door off the front wall too.


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Re: M100s?
Canesfan27 #442964 07/27/21 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Canesfan27
I’m not use to hearing surround sounds at low volumes. So many sounds in the movies I didn’t hear before are now audible. I’ll have some time this weekend to re-run audyssey and make a few manual adjustments. Music doesn’t get fatiguing at higher volume. Everything is extremely clean sounding. The muddy sounds at -10 are gone and music is satisfying at -20 even across the room. I lost some of the soundstage and imaging but I think that’s due to the avr being uncalibrated. I am assuming the level adjustments will come down due to the extra power.

It makes sense that music is not fatiguing at higher volumes. The only way that music can be more satisfying at -20 though is if your Denon's amp gain is lower than the ADA's. In my case, the Onk and ADA gains are equal. I heard no difference at lower volumes even in 5.1. If you're running 9.1 then maybe your Denon is finding it difficult to cope with peaks even at lower levels. Or maybe your Denon's power supply is crap compared to my Onk.

There should be no difference in soundstage and imaging in stereo at lower volumes.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #442966 07/27/21 01:42 PM
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My comparisons have been mostly at -10 because that was my normal listening level at the MLP using the AVR. I'll hopefully have some time this weekend to do a little more critical listening but on the initial listening session it felt like it was different.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #442996 07/30/21 01:38 PM
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After calibration the soundstage is much more pronounced. Especially the phantom center. Really starting to enjoy the speakers even more. I'm tinkering with toe-in with the 100s to see if I can get them dialed in any more.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #442997 07/30/21 03:33 PM
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Did you note the calibration levels of the speakers before and after the addition of the ADA?

It'll be interesting to see if they will continue to disappear as you reported before.


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