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Re: M100s?
Mojo #439735 11/18/20 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
I'm considering trading in my 500s for 600s.
Why?

Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439736 11/18/20 07:55 PM
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I can't say I am not happy. This is by far the most incredible bass I have ever heard anywhere. My buddy who bought M100s a few weeks back can't stand the fact that even with those and an SVS, he doesn't have anything close to what I have. He doesn't have it bass-wise and he doesn't have it in terms of spatial extension, imaging and resolution. Dynamics, even at lower listening levels, are also better. It's just so effin' good...OMG!

Nonetheless, the 600s go deeper than the 500s. It's not subtle. That additional extension makes a difference even with music (I really don't care about movies because it's already more than good enough). It's the resolution. You can hear it in the growl of a bass guitar or the thwack of drums.

Admittedly, I don't fully understand why this is. Certain drums have very low subharmonics and those subharmonics are sometimes enhanced by the recording engineer. But string bass doesn't have harmonics I don't think. There's something going on though that I don't understand because bass and drums sound better on the 600.


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Re: M100s?
Mojo #439739 11/18/20 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
It's not subtle ... Admittedly, I don't fully understand why this is.

Hmmm, I have not tested the 500 and 600 side by side ... but I'm fairly sure I would not hear the difference. So far anytime I thought I was hearing anything below 20Hz ... it was because I was not ... Ha! Bet you even know what what I'm talking about there smile

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Rebulx #439741 11/18/20 10:34 PM
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Yeah, I do know. Because I can't properly justify it in my mind, I am going to put it out of my mind. The 500s stay. Like I said, I am not suffering. smile


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439743 11/18/20 10:47 PM
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Perhaps you can get a friend to help you run a blind test ... so you can properly justify it smile

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Rebulx #439744 11/18/20 11:02 PM
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Uh huh...you'd be a great Axiom sales guy. smile


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439748 11/19/20 03:31 AM
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Okay so I switched the receiver over to “auto” so it simply plays the source material and all I can say is “wow.” The whole dynamic changed. Played a wide array of music and the 100s were on another level. I had it playing in stereo and had to get up and walk to the center speaker to make sure it wasn’t playing. I could see the center light indicator on the receiver was off but the music I was hearing was so enveloping I thought there’s no way the center isn’t on. Switched over to a few blu ray movies and was blown away again. I had no idea what was missing using the artificial surround modes. Natural is by far the way I’m going to be moving forward. If it wasn’t my child’s bedtime earlier I’d still be downstairs with my jaw on the floor. I am highly impressed by everything I’m hearing now and I can’t wait to get back down there for another listening session.


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Re: M100s?
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Canes, good for you. What a feeling, eh?

You should also be able to "see" images in 3D if positioned properly. All v4 do that. Even M2.

Once you get your QS10s up, there's nothing wrong with sound mode experimentation. There are settings in there to allow you to mess around with spatial imaging.

When I had just the 800, switching to a sound mode caused bass to diminish. Not any more!


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439750 11/19/20 04:09 AM
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I’m still working on the sweet spot. I’ll continue to shift the speakers around to see how the positioning changes the sound. I went through the sound modes but my ears kept taking me back to natural. There are still a lot of settings on the avr I haven’t explored yet but I have a new starting point to see if the sound improves or not. I played some Glenn Miller and I could definitely “see” where the instruments were. I was already impressed with the 100s before but now it’s a whole new ballgame. They aren’t even through the break in period so I can’t wait to see them stretch their legs. The 600 also improved based on the new settings.


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Rebulx #439751 11/19/20 04:14 AM
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The sound no longer feels muted. I’m listening at lower volume but getting better sound than I was at higher volume on the other settings.

Last edited by CanesFanInVA; 11/19/20 04:14 AM.

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