M80v3 vs latest M100 for Home Theater setup
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Hi. Currently I have a 7.1.4 setup (equipment on my signature) using an M80v3 as Front speakers. I have the opportunity to buy 3 month old M100 from someone locally in my town but I want check first if I will really hear a big difference on my setup. Room is around 15x19 and normally use for movies and gaming.
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I have no idea about M80v3 but the M100v4 is miles better than M80v2 in every imaginable aspect except the larger size and weight. The M2v4, M3v4, M5v4 and M50v4 are also better than M80v2 in delivering emotional satisfaction.
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Embeleco, I am curious myself as to how different the two versions might sound. As I have mostly v3 in my Theatre the cost versus benefit of going to v4, I’m not feeling it would be substantial. I use dual subs, an ep 800 and a 12” JBL Northridge. Plenty of bass. Someone will have to try that out and get back to us. Cheers, Jeff
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V4 was a re-design of everything including improved cabinet bracing and damping, re-designed crossovers, and redesign of all drivers. I still maintain v4 can't get any better with the existing architecture.
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I seem to recall Ian commenting on v3 versus v4. Something about needing sufficient wooferage. Having the bottom end covered would negate most of the audible improvements v4 presented? I’m probably not remembering all of his comments or taking them out of context!
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The technical term is woofage...lol!
The woofage was improved across woofer, midwoofer, bracing, polyfill and the crossover. The Family of Curves is better behaved now on the low end. Although, the M80v4 doesn't exactly look as great as the M60 or M100. We have to remember the M100 was a complete redesign and the M80 was improved as much as possible based on what was learned from the Model T and the M100. The Model T forced Andrew and Ian to re-examine EVERYTHING.
Besides the lows, the mids and highs were improved with the v4 squawker.
P.S. There is far more emotional impact with the v4 over the v2. Mid-bass pops nicely, mids and highs are real clean and dispersive, lending to very slick imaging and soundstage for those who have them set up right in the room.
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Really? Woofage is a technical term? Here I thought we were making this stuff up as we go along! I like wooferage better!
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I think "wooferage" is the correct term.
Woofage sounds like something you would stuff into the cabinet for damping.
"Dammit, I have mice living in the woofage again"
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I thought it meant how one suffers when your trying to go to sleep and the neighbors dog won’t stop barking ...
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Well...you wouldn't say tweeterage, would you? You'd say tweetage. Therefore, by transitive property, the correct term would be woofage.
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Of course I would, why not? Jeff
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You'd say that when you're not Blue Dreaming?
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Yes of course I would. Same vocabulary, various conditions, extenuating circumstances, lengthy pointless retorts! Jeff
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I might slip up and say tweeterage if I ever Blue Dream but otherwise no!
I called up a very reputable dealer in town and said I want to talk tweeterage with someone knowledgeable. The lady said "What? Do you mean tweetage?"
I guess that proves it's tweetage and not tweeterage.
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So Embeleco What did you decide? Are you replacing your 80 v3 with 100 v4? I for one would certainly like to hear your thoughts. What was the seller asking for the m-100s? Something reasonable I hope.
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I called up a very reputable dealer in town and said I want to talk tweeterage with someone knowledgeable. The lady said "What? Do you mean tweetage?"
I guess that proves it's tweetage and not tweeterage. The discussion was about wooferage
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We'll settle wooferage or woofage once I call her again.
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This thread is so funny!!! Laughing My Ass Off!
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Well...Doreen from the audio store told me today she would never say woofage because it sounds like someone puked. So I guess it's wooferage and tweetage. Wooferage and tweetage live together in perfect harmony One o'er the other on my Axiom speakers, oh Lord why don't we? P.S. Rebulx, she looked at your photo and said you're kinda cute.
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Thanks for checking on that.
Now we can discuss what goes in between. Since wooferage and tweetage follow different patterns perhaps the in-between part should be something like midrangerie ?
Say "hi" to Doreen for me.
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Yeah, I'm real relieved to have that all sorted out.
So...midrangerie or midwooferage?
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Doreen sounds like a very bright person to me! I agree with everything she says!
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