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Re: Which Power Source for M60ti? Newbie.
Kodiak #440591 01/08/21 06:13 AM
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Hi Kodiak

I haven't read every post in this thread, so you may already have said whether or not you have the Tidal HiFi subscription ($19.99USD/mo) which gives you access to hi res and MQA music files.

I like it.


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Re: Which Power Source for M60ti? Newbie.
Kodiak #440593 01/08/21 07:41 AM
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Tidal HIFI. That’s what I got. It plays at 24/44.1.

I like it too.

I’m trying to find an easy way to port all my playlists too. Looks like some transfer tools exist.


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Re: Which Power Source for M60ti? Newbie.
Kodiak #440597 01/08/21 03:01 PM
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According to Tidal, HiFi is 16/44.1 except for MQA tracks. Even with MQA, it's not clear to me what level of MQA support is built into streamers that "support" MQA.

https://support.tidal.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002599997-What-Audio-Quality-Does-TIDAL-HiFi-Offer-

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Re: Which Power Source for M60ti? Newbie.
Kodiak #440600 01/08/21 06:08 PM
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Learned a lot from this thread. Amazing.

I enjoy my M2v4s a lot. Sometimes I may want to sit back further to focus on music only because I am distracting by the great imaging. LOL.

Did anyone have compared it with other speakers side by side? For example I just read a lot of rave reviews about KEF LS50. Could $500 compete with $1500?

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Re: Which Power Source for M60ti? Newbie.
Kodiak #440602 01/08/21 06:37 PM
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This effect of being distracted by the level of detail in all the Axioms with dedicated mid-ranges is something I've written about. The M3 and M50 don't distract with their woofer covering the lows and mids. They are very easy to relax with.


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Just like going to the concert and sitting right in front of the band and keep noticing how each instrument is singing.

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Kodiak #440605 01/08/21 07:36 PM
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Live venues I've been to fall into two categories. One is very diffuse sound with no ability to pick out images. Rock concerts are like that. The other is very clear separation in images. More intimate settings with acoustic instruments and singers with no mics are like that.

With the v4, the nature of the performance changes depending on how far you listen from them and how widely they're placed. The room of course plays a big role. If you sit up close, like you are, the room can play less of a role particularly if it's bigger. If you sit further back in the diffuse field like me, the room plays a bigger role.

They're both good and it's a matter of preference. It may not be wrong to say that the closer you decide to sit, the smaller your speaker ought to be. That way it can acoustically disappear.


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Re: Which Power Source for M60ti? Newbie.
Rock #440635 01/11/21 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock
Did anyone have compared it with other speakers side by side? For example I just read a lot of rave reviews about KEF LS50. Could $500 compete with $1500?

I’ve read a ton of reviews and watched video reviews of LS 50 and LS50 Meta. So much so I want to hear them now just to see what the hype is. Same as the Klipsch rp600. I want to hear em to see if the hype is true or just hype.


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Re: Which Power Source for M60ti? Newbie.
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The LS50 meta and M2v4 bookshelves are very close. I didn't compare with the M2OWv4.

The M2 can go louder before distortion becomes objectionable and is more satisfying down low. The LS50 does better than the M2 closer to the front wall. With a sub at 80 Hz, that boundary doesn't matter for bass. The conventional wisdom is to use a port plug but I find the smaller Axioms sound congested with plugs. The M100 is OK unless all its ports are stuffed. The actives don't need any port stuffing which I still can't figure out how that was accomplished. Boundaries don't seem to matter.

The LS50 meta has sharper imaging but I couldn't decide if that was more satisfying or not. It's like using a centre with active LFRs. The image is more focused but that doesn't sound as natural to me as a bit more diffuse. I don't know which is more faithful to the source recording but I know I enjoy more diffuse but not fuzzy imaging.

I like the midrange on the M2 better but others liked the LS50 meta's better.

Both speakers acoustically disappear and both present the same width with more depth going to the LS50 meta. The M2 can go wider when turned up. At that point, the LS50 metas are getting pushed too much. I should point out that to get the M2 to completely disappear and get total stage holography, I had to drop the tweeter about 6". That did not detract from anything.

I don't know about the Klipsch.


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Re: Which Power Source for M60ti? Newbie.
Mojo #440641 01/11/21 07:18 PM
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This is a great comparison which answered my question. I knew that a lot of cost goes to the sales channel and advertisement for LS50 and you could save a lot when going with direct Internet vendor like Axiom. I just don't realize how much we save vs. how much we get until we do a side by side blind test.

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