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Re: M100s?
Canesfan27 #441224 02/13/21 02:35 AM
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Reblux, I will be sure to take progress pics and even some as I am tinkering with no walls and let you guys know how the different set ups sound. I'm hoping I can squeeze a weekend or two off during tax season to frame up the foundation walls so we can start running wires and putting insulation in place.

Looks like it's going to be Monday on the 10s. They are still showing they are in Memphis. I'm looking forward to having surround sound again and just hearing how much better these will sound vs my dad's old qs8 v2s.


Canes, I'm looking forward to hearing your impressions on these guys and pics on placement or of how you audition them. The room and placement makes all the diff on sound quality. I've not heard the QS10's but really want too. Ian, you have my address... lol


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Most of my clients feel the same way and put off working on their books until later in the year. Personally the sooner we get them the more time and less stress it is for us trying to get the complete and out the door.

Tracking shows one of them is in town ready for delivery and the other is still showing in Memphis. I really hope that isn't the case and they just forgot to scan one for tracking update.

I will start running some temporary speaker wire for them tomorrow at some point so all I'll have to do is get the mounted up in the first location. Also, going to start getting subwoofer cables ran throughout the room. I'd like to get about 6 locations wired up for subs, planning on eventually getting 4 into the room based off of Trevor's recommendation. I think I'll start with two front firing and two side firing 600s but I'll have it wired for 4 side firing so I can move things around. I really have to think about how many speakers I want in the room. If Mojo's review of the 10s is accurate I doubt I'll go the way of Atmos and possibly only go to 7.2 or maybe 5.2 will be sufficient. I want to get the amp hooked up first because that'll really allow me to push these speakers to their full potential.


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Re: M100s?
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Canes, I'm sorry if I led you astray. I've always said I'm satisfied enough with the overhead effects my QS10 sides give me. That is not to say however that Atmos doesn't sound better. Atmos steers different sounds to overhead speakers relative to sides. That results in greater spatial resolution and realism.

I'd say the side QS10s give me Neural:X in the overhead dimension without needing a Neural:X-capable receiver or overhead speakers. With their forward-of-MLP position, I hear quiet overhead effects ahead of me. When the effects get louder, I can hear them ahead, directly above, and behind me. For example, when a plane is taking off directly in front, I can hear it panning above me from the front, directly above and then behind.

The side QS10s are allowing me to extend the life of my 8 year-old Onk.


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Re: M100s?
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My AVR runs Neural:X but I really haven't experimented in great detail the different surround settings. Mostly due to only briefly having the old QS8s hooked up. I feel like if I leave the 10s slightly forward I will have a similar result and if I need more envelopment I can always add the rears but they would be freely hanging with no rear wall.


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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #441232 02/13/21 05:29 PM
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I’m running 5.1 in the family room with QS10s. I had a 7.1.2 ATMOS setup in the past family rooms but this time, since we were putting a HT downstairs, 5.1 won on aesthetics. Even though it’s a minimal setup most visitors think this is the HT ... it looks and sounds great.

Downstairs the HT is a work in progress ... a ATMOS, DTS-X, Aura-3d setup (7.4.6 + 2 to start, but wiring for 12bed positions and 19 height/top positions as an attempt of future proofing.). These 3d formats add an extra dimension (just had to say that) to your listening enjoyment and this is a fantastic time to start as the content seems to be catching up with all the hype.

That said IMO it’s better to allocate your money over less channels if you have to compromise too much on speakers and equipment to get more (channels that is). But, I’d at least wire for it.

Canes, I guess what I’m trying to say is I’m a bit confused on why your not going the 3d object placement sound route. You seem to be going for everything else. My only assumption is that per channel things get really expensive if you start down the 1000 speaker path of bottomless formats (and planning wise one has to guess at what the future holds). Also as I pointed out in the first paragraph the legacy formats get you 95% what you need at the moment. I’m just thinking that at some point 3d sound steering will play an important part in film/content.

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Re: M100s?
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I may go ahead and wire for everything but the main reason is mostly aesthetics for the room. What I think looks good for a HT my wife, unfortunately, doesn't get the same appeal. I also think it has to with how I listen and feel like movies and music should sound vs. someone who does not really do any kind of critical listening at all. Fortunately, my AVR is set up for the 3d surround modes, Atmos and Aura, so as long as I wire for it I will always have more options down the road. My hope is that as my wife starts watching and enjoying the HT she will be open for expanding the sound parameters. I already know as we are able to start entertaining again that my guests are going to love the setup.


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Re: M100s?
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Originally, the family room and the HT were one an the same. Unfortunately designing it became an impossible task between functionality and aesthetics. My wife and I didn’t agree. The architect was great at architecture for interior/exterior design but had little under standing of home theater design. When we split the two we agreed that the family room would prioritize aesthetics and that the HT would prioritize the movie/critical listening experience. The wife gave me complete control of the later ... .

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I'm hoping that'll become the case in my situation. I think she would love the HT if she would let me set it up that way but it may take me doing it anyway and asking for forgiveness after. At least if it's in there she would be able to hear it.


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The QS10s arrived yesterday. Hoping I'll have them hooked up by this weekend so I can start breaking them in.


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Rebulx #441271 02/17/21 03:54 AM
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Awesome Canes! Hope to hear your feedback! I just ordered a pair myself, rosewood high gloss!

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