Re: Blind testing between active and non LFR1100??
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You'll also want to listen to them in mono. It's pretty messed up how mono sounds like the whole band has moved forward and wrapped around you. Try it with the M100 and see if you get that effect. Are you talking about the actives?
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Re: Blind testing between active and non LFR1100??
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Re: Blind testing between active and non LFR1100??
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There's a set of actives in black oak in there. I could run one of them for now until I could get another 1500.
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Re: Blind testing between active and non LFR1100??
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Aye, Canes. I like men of action.
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Re: Blind testing between active and non LFR1100??
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It's pretty messed up how mono sounds like the whole band has moved forward and wrapped around you. . I’ll listen to them again, in a few weeks hopefully (not setup right now), but this was not my experience.
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Re: Blind testing between active and non LFR1100??
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Then there are only three explanations: you broke them, they suffered from position error, you need ears-brain therapy.
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Re: Blind testing between active and non LFR1100??
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Or perhaps I set them up correctly
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Re: Blind testing between active and non LFR1100??
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I moved from the M80 to the LFR1100 and will say the change was substantial. Now you need to remember that the LFR1100 is sort of like the M100 with the advantage of a DSP and an extra set of speakers at the back of the unit.
I did give someone a listen to my LFR's a few years ago pre pandemic and one of the things he wanted to see what what it was like if you turned off the rear speakers on the LFR. that is easy to do, so I gave it a try and the sound envelope that makes you feel like you are inside the music for lack of a better description fell away and you suddenly could sense that the speakers were infront of you instead of around you.
I was amazed by the great sound that they produced but i will always give an equal bit of warning. When I first got the LFR i was missing quite a bit of the speaker capability because the pre-amp that i had wasn't up to the task. make sure that you have a clean pre-amp as these speakers are very revealing.
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Re: Blind testing between active and non LFR1100??
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Now you need to remember that the LFR1100 is sort of like the M100 with the advantage of a DSP and an extra set of speakers at the back of the unit. I haven't heard the passive LFR1100 but I could see how it may have the characteristic sound of the M100. What do I mean by that? The M100 is no slouch but it is not transparent. The actives on the other hand have no character. They sound like an ideal electro-acoustic transducer compared to all other speakers I've heard. The closest with the same characteristic is the M2 (within its rated specifications). make sure that you have a clean pre-amp as these speakers are very revealing. Indeed. And amps.
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