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Have you used the V2 and V4 together? Do they sound same enough to use together?

I have the version prior to V2, the Ti series. There is a thread in here that has a list of the changes by each version. One of the version updates was mostly cosmetic changes to the speaker. I don't recall which version they changed the driver and crossover config. Perhaps Mojo has it written down.
You can see my thoughts on the Ti vs. V4 here:
https://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/u...ker-comparison-m60ti-vs-m60v4#Post444002

I would not use the Ti with the V4 for mixing mains and centre. The tonal difference is significant enough. It sounds alot more clean across the front when all Ti or V4 are used.

If the A1s are newer I’d say the v4 would be more similar.

Great review Chessaroo. I have a pair of M60Ti's which I thoroughly enjoy. I have never got into a comparison on the different versions as I have a mixed bag of Axioms (VP180 On-wall, QS8's V2, EP350V3). I am contemplating replacing the M60's with M80's or M100's. Based on your review it would make sense to upgrade the QS8's as well. The M60's would move to the games room for a 2 channel system.

My m100s will be in refurb store shortly.

I believe refurb is only available to US and Canada only. I have emailed Axiom to confirm just in case

Just note that the Ti are very different from the V4 in midrange and vocal clarity so if you get new M80s/M100s, they will be V4, not Ti. Some people found the Ti to be bright which they can be on some recordings, but on good recordings i've found them to be very accurate sounding. Ironically they are still more muted, recessed in vocals especially as well as upper midrange compared to all the speakers i have reviewed over the years. They've all done it without sounding overly bright or harsh. The new V4 tweeter definitely sounds smoother though.

Presently i'm playing around with EQ settings on my AVR to get the dialogue and vocals to be more forward. In brief, IMO, the V4 needs a bit more treble.

Were you testing in mono with each speaker dead in front of you? Might yield different result?

I have been trying to embrace different viewpoints on audio and tried the New Record Day speaker setup for best soundstage method. Its on youtube. Trying to learn from divergent opinions.

For various reasons his method didnt work, and it makes sense if you think about room acoustics why it wouldnt in all rooms. Frequency response was horrible with this method in my room. No bass…. Excited mode at 100hz. It reinforced my experience, and I reverted to a calculator and laser. Fantastic result.

Anyway, interestingly enough I was able to make the M5HP completely unlistenable. -To the point I though something was wrong with the amplifier. Anyway…. point being you can make speakers’ character night and day different by changing their interaction and loading of your room.

Here is the best result from the new record day vid with M5s Trace in green. After listening to 1min clips while setting placement I was happy. Sit for 20 mins? Turned it off and left disgusted…. But treble and air was there. Not the speakers fault though!!

This is the result when I moved them 14 inches. About the same as putting speakers side by side for comparison. Same speaker in same room. Just set up with acoustical rules. Sounds fantastic now. Very balanced and bass is fast with no overhang.

Not sure if its a v4 vs ti thing? In my room the v4 is dang near perfect? 14 inches!

Whoops derail! Hope this is useful to Randomaudioguy. Sorry.