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Re: What is your favourite Axiom speaker?
Mojo #444628 02/09/22 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
laugh Love my v4 stuff. Really despise that M22. Maybe the M22 v4 is better...dunno.

Notice however there is a wide price gap between the M3 and the M5 that begs to be filled. That used to be the M22...until it was taken off the site. It appears no matter what they threw at it - v4 tweeters, improved mids, improved cross-over - its curves brought shame to the family.
The M22 v4 sounds great … it’s a M2 with a 3db boost in efficiency

Re: What is your favourite Axiom speaker?
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Michael, you of all people should. If you had, you'd be enjoying M5s right now instead of suffering brain damage from your M22s.


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Re: What is your favourite Axiom speaker?
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Originally Posted by Mojo
laugh Love my v4 stuff. Really despise that M22. Maybe the M22 v4 is better...dunno.

Notice however there is a wide price gap between the M3 and the M5 that begs to be filled. That used to be the M22...until it was taken off the site. It appears no matter what they threw at it - v4 tweeters, improved mids, improved cross-over - its curves brought shame to the family.
The M22 v4 sounds great … it’s a M2 with a 3db boost in efficiency

Michael found the M22v4 gave him more brain damage than his old M22v2. So he punted the v4 back to Axiom.


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Re: What is your favourite Axiom speaker?
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I have never heard M22 V4's. Only my old, brain-damaging TI's. I like them. It will do no good to try and convince me otherwise. It's my opinion to have, not yours to discard.

I have M80Ti's and M80V4's. I've listened to both extensively. There are elements and characteristics of both that enjoy and do not enjoy equally. Both are currently in use in my home.

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Well Michael, I do apologize. I thought it was you who tried M22v4 and did not like them against the M22ti. I have you confused with someone else.

It is impossible to argue against opinion of taste or preferences. Enjoy them as many others do.


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Re: What is your favourite Axiom speaker?
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In my two experiences with M80s in different rooms I have been pretty impressed. Begs the question what the M100s bring to the table in addition in real world use. Harder to push them in installs. Pretty big. Havent met the right room yet.

Still think the M5s are an endgame speaker for all but big and dedicated rooms. Give them power and holy cow! Mid sized rooms and dens. Slam dunk.

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I can only comment on M80v2 vs. M100v4. The M100 was more pleasing in absolutely every way. And so was the M5. In my 4200 cu ft room.


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Re: What is your favourite Axiom speaker?
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Youve owned a few. Which one gets your nod, all things considered?

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Hi Mojo

Yes, the M22s fit nicely between the M3s and M5s. There was another, unsung but reportedly wonderful Axiom speaker, the M40. It was a small tower version of the M3. I've never heard them, but the reviewers thought highly of them, and folks who had them, loved them.

Hello my dear friend Ian!

Perhaps it's time for a reprise of the wonderful M40s!

With the HP 6.5" driver and the V4 tweeter, it might just give the M5 a run for the money!

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Re: What is your favourite Axiom speaker?
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Originally Posted by TrevorM
Youve owned a few. Which one gets your nod, all things considered?

I am a fan of every single v4.

I put down the M3v4 a lot but that's only because it isn't linear and it shows. Nonetheless, like vinyl, tape and tubes, it is very enjoyable. I'm not kidding when I say I'd like to have a DSP that allows me to set between modern and retro hi-fi. All it would have to do for retro is boost channel cross-talk, add some white noise, and attenuate the top and bottom end. You could even add a tube mode that adds harmonic distortion and glows the DSP with the blue lasers that Andrew loves to blind us with.

The biggest shock of my life was the sound quality of the M2 and M5 on-walls. I still haven't picked my jaw up from the floor.

I'll leave the centre, subs and surrounds out of it. Out of the v4 M2, M3, M5, M50, M100 and active LFR, the M2 takes top honors. OW and bookshelf. Easy, easy, easy system integration, acoustic holography with no revealing of the speakers, and audiophile-level sound quality within its operating specifications. All at an extremely affordable price, in choice of finishes, great member benefits and delivered to your door.

BTW, the easy integration with the room is largely a function of the vicious cut-off below 60Hz. They can still be enjoyed without a sub though with room support. The easy integration with electronics is due to their impedance and sensitivity. Their characteristics makes them a great match for those applications where room correction isn't available or desired.

Now some will say it's thin-sounding. Fair enough. Add a sub. Or go M3 for warmth or M5 for warmth and more linearity. But those aren't perfect within their operating specifications like the M2 is.


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