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Re: M3 Powered vs KEF LSX Wireless?
Mojo #444708 02/16/22 03:32 PM
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Yes I did read it, but in practice my ears can't tell any significant difference. I tried putting two profiles one with off and other having the max settings, I can hear the sound change ever so slightly but not enough to say one was better than the other.

My Thoughts are that the KEF Control software is used by both KEF LSX and KEF LS50W, plus these settings shouldn't be changing the treble, only bass as thats where walls and desk would cause interference. Considering the LSX are weak on bass, I don't see much going on.

I did get my Axiom M2 today, B-Stock, one speaker turned out to have a scuff on the grill so can't complain getting a $200+ discount on then smile

I will post my comparision.


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The desk and wall mode adjust for boundary gain. Desk mode for the desk surface in front of the speaker; wall mode for the wall behind the speaker. Boundaries act as acoustic mirrors. The direct signal from the driver interferes with the reflected signal from the boundary. Those settings provide a degree of compensation.

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Re: M3 Powered vs KEF LSX Wireless?
Snow #444709 02/16/22 05:31 PM
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Initial impressions, Axiom exceed in all aspects except vocals.

I had to google the effect I am hearing in KEF. so google says it calls Vibrato, while listening to All My Tears, I can hear Ane Brun holding those notes in vibrato so beautifully that it brings out emotions and gives chills. Further I can hear nuances in her breathing between words that no other speaker I tested pronounces them so beautifully. I am beginning to think its either the Denon PMA-600NE not able to deliver or KEF doing something wonky with their DSP. I hold Axiom to a very high regard, if they aren't able to produce these same effects, is something wrong with the AMP or the speakers not delivering!

Re: M3 Powered vs KEF LSX Wireless?
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I just listened to it via YouTube music.

My M2OW in the living room don't vibrato.

The active LFRs vibrato very nicely.

POS M2OW! To the firepit they go!!

BTW, on the LFRs I can clearly hear the oxygen entering the alveoli and carbon dioxide releasing. Her right lung sounds like it has more capacity. I can also hear two - maybe three - small benign polyps in her bronchial passages.


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Re: M3 Powered vs KEF LSX Wireless?
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What you need to do now is figure out which provides more enjoyment.

I'd be curious to know if you can perceive any soundstage width and depth in your set-up.

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Re: M3 Powered vs KEF LSX Wireless?
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KEF are giving much better soundstage when it comes to width, not much depth. I feel its pulling vocals to left a bit; but vocals are better sounding.

I am going to audition for a week before deciding. I am enjoying KEF LSX more but very aparent of its shortcomings while I hear them. The missed bass on songs I know well, when I am expecting them and I don't hear them, I get snaped out of euphoria the vocals are building.

M2 I am hearing everything I want to hear but I can't answer why I am not enjoying them. Leaning towards KEF inspite of its shortcoming in the bass department!

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What you need to do now is figure out which provides more enjoyment.

I'd be curious to know if you can perceive any soundstage width and depth in your set-up.

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Maybe adjusting the toe-in will fix the pulling to the left. Enjoy!


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Re: M3 Powered vs KEF LSX Wireless?
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Snow...dude...you will not believe this! I have the Axiom Audiobyte computer speakers. They are one step "down" from the M2s. I believe they are called M1s. The rendition of the song I listened to earlier and now on the Audiobytes is at the link below. Anyway...I have always loved these Audiobytes. They only go down to about 100Hz but I have a 20-year old stinky, Sony 12" sub that I heavily modified that is actually quite pleasant.

So get this - not only does she sound supremely clean and vibratory, she is wide, WIDE, W I D E. Her voice is coming from dead centre in an eerie kinda way but she's reverberating out to the sides and around me. I freakin' love these damned things!

No depth to speak of though on this tune unless you count the fact she's wrapping around me and fading out somewhere behind me. My desk and room are nothing special BTW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNSBctmMI3k

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Re: M3 Powered vs KEF LSX Wireless?
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Just look at it, Snow. Burled walnut!

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Looks so beautiful, I am sure sounds just as sweet.

Meanwhile, guess what, the B-Stock speaker they sent has some issue, its woofer is dead, not sure whats going on. I played them for 5 min in morning and went to a meeting wondering why are they sounding off. Now that I got more time as soon as i turned them on I noticed I could barely hear anything from one channel. swapped the channels, still the same speaker that is bad. Argh, hate when that happens, I am surprised Axiom didn't test the speaker before shipping it to me, disappointed.

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Just look at it, Snow. Burled walnut!

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Re: M3 Powered vs KEF LSX Wireless?
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Bad mid-woofer is good news! Strong-arm them into a brand new pair with a finish of your choice. smile


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