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What are your goals for the room performance wise? Adding lots of big speakers might be a dissapointment given all hard surfaces and tile floor. You might want to allow some budget for a room rework. A 14’ ceiling is going to be a reverb chamber without a plan to reduce decay times. Pop a balloon. Sound like a boing or zing? Start there. If this was a client install I would be pushing for stereo EP500s for the LFRs and an ultra short throw projector for a 120” image to cover the fireplace. Cover the lower 2/3 of windows with honeycomb blackout blinds to reduce decay times and treat the back wall with a tapestry. Put diffusers on sidewalls. Keep it simple. This is a problem room with insane decay times. My vote anyways.  Trevor, do you have any experience with acoustic panels and with walls this high? My wife came across these panels as something she wouldn’t be too opposed.
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Yes, a very valid point. I had a 120” screen many years ago and it was lovely. My gut is that going with a projector would be cost prohibitive.
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USTs continue to get better while falling in price. Screens are also falling. So you might want to get that 85" and consider a UST upgrade later.
That's basically what I did a few years ago ... I was temped to by the USTs but went with a nice 77" instead. My thinking was that eventually, if I really wanted something bigger, I'd move the 77" to the bedroom .
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USTs continue to get better while falling in price. Screens are also falling. So you might want to get that 85" and consider a UST upgrade later.
That's basically what I did a few years ago ... I was temped to by the USTs but went with a nice 77" instead. My thinking was that eventually, if I really wanted something bigger, I'd move the 77" to the bedroom . Clearly there is an established upgrade path Currently have a 65” and the original plan was/is to move that to the bedroom and replace it with a nice 77”!
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I don't know how y'all live with all this shite in your bedrooms. My bedroom consists of one bed and a closet. Nothing on the walls. All I do there is sleep and change clothes.
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I don't know how y'all live with all this shite in your bedrooms. My bedroom consists of one bed and a closet. Nothing on the walls. All I do there is sleep and change clothes. If all I had was a bedroom I might be more inclined along those lines but these “bedrooms” are massive! Ours is 14’x25’ which is just crazy big as far as I’m concerned. As such it makes sense to have a couch/tv off to the side where we can watch something while the family has friends over. It also happens to make the upgrade easier to explain 
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Your bedroom is larger than my living room. You need an EP800 in there.
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Your bedroom is larger than my living room. You need an EP800 in there. Yeah, that’s not going to fly 
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What are your goals for the room performance wise? Adding lots of big speakers might be a dissapointment given all hard surfaces and tile floor. You might want to allow some budget for a room rework. A 14’ ceiling is going to be a reverb chamber without a plan to reduce decay times. Pop a balloon. Sound like a boing or zing? Start there. If this was a client install I would be pushing for stereo EP500s for the LFRs and an ultra short throw projector for a 120” image to cover the fireplace. Cover the lower 2/3 of windows with honeycomb blackout blinds to reduce decay times and treat the back wall with a tapestry. Put diffusers on sidewalls. Keep it simple. This is a problem room with insane decay times. My vote anyways. Trevor, do you have any experience with acoustic panels and with walls this high? My wife came across these panels as something she wouldn’t be too opposed. Seems fine. To increase effectiveness install using method 3 in the details provided in the link. The product you linked does not specify the low frequency effectiveness. Best to back it with roxul as mentioned. Typically a room is treated so that areas are a mix of diffusion and absorption with bare space between. Be cautious of treating an entire wall if that is your plan. If you plan on ceiling speakers for atmos, consider hanging clouds and mounting speakers in them. These can act as points of visual design interest and also act as absorbers if you lay roxul on top. Less attic penetration that way too. Plenty of install guides online. Main takeaway is to create a homogeneous space with staggered absorbers/diffusers/bare wall on as much surface as practical. The more surface you treat, the drier the room gets (reducing decay times.) A reproduction space should aim for 300-450 milliseconds. You will be hard pressed to hit the high end of that without substatial effort, but something is definitely better than nothing!
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Trevor, do you have any experience with acoustic panels and with walls this high? My wife came across these panels as something she wouldn’t be too opposed. Seems fine. To increase effectiveness install using method 3 in the details provided in the link. The product you linked does not specify the low frequency effectiveness. Best to back it with roxul as mentioned. Typically a room is treated so that areas are a mix of diffusion and absorption with bare space between. Be cautious of treating an entire wall if that is your plan. If you plan on ceiling speakers for atmos, consider hanging clouds and mounting speakers in them. These can act as points of visual design interest and also act as absorbers if you lay roxul on top. Less attic penetration that way too. Plenty of install guides online. Main takeaway is to create a homogeneous space with staggered absorbers/diffusers/bare wall on as much surface as practical. The more surface you treat, the drier the room gets (reducing decay times.) A reproduction space should aim for 300-450 milliseconds. You will be hard pressed to hit the high end of that without substatial effort, but something is definitely better than nothing! Thanks Trevor! I was thinking of method 3 so same page there. Love the idea of ceiling speakers mounted on cloud treatments as well. Slowly working toward a concrete plan.
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