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Re: Bookshelf or FloorStanding 5.1 System vs. Room Siz
azan14 #446926 12/16/22 05:28 PM
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I have room about same size. My Anthem 720 and M5HP and VP106HP are very efficient . I have a SVS 2000 Pro sub. I like that I can position the Bookshelves better and height wise to for clear soundstage and presence. they totally disappear. wish I could upload new pics though


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Re: Bookshelf or FloorStanding 5.1 System vs. Room Siz
azan14 #446927 12/16/22 05:41 PM
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The disappearing of the M5s is certainly a beautiful thing. Too damned bad they need more than 4 times the power of an active LFR to achieve the same SPL as an ALFR!


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Re: Bookshelf or FloorStanding 5.1 System vs. Room Siz
TroyD #446938 12/18/22 01:24 AM
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Troy, you can upload images using https://postimages.org/.


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Re: Bookshelf or FloorStanding 5.1 System vs. Room Siz
azan14 #446949 12/18/22 08:21 PM
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For another data point here's my layout: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o7ZU0ZxGuO5gu96gLmHStV1uq4nR3M8P/view?usp=share_link

I have M80s in the location labeled 'speakers'. They are probably more than I needed but are not too much. (M60s would have been fine, Mojo was right; but dammit, I wanted M80s!) I'm using the Axiom ADA1000 and turn it up to about 1/3 to listen at about 80-85 db. There a longer than normal wire run (far corner of the room on the top-right), so that might be sucking up some juice.

That same top-right room has M5s and I find them a tad weak; but I'm only driving them with a Yamaha RX-V671, with a better amp they'd be fine. The M5's are unnecessary for my study (not shown) which is 13'x14'. But they're not too much either.

As for towers tipping over, I've not had a problem and I have to klutzy 60 lb dog and a schizoid cat that tries to jump on top on anything and everything. Axiom also sells outriggers if you want even more stabilization.
https://www.axiomaudio.com/outriggers-set

So to parrot the other opinions, you'd be fine with either M5 or M60s, it would just depend on your layout options and preference.

Re: Bookshelf or FloorStanding 5.1 System vs. Room Siz
azan14 #446953 12/19/22 12:57 AM
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M2s with a 350 would have been fine in my space but dammit...I wanted active LFRs with 7 sealed subs!


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azan14 #446970 12/21/22 04:11 PM
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Cork, I'm surprised you're still alive! I guess you didn't touch the chairs or the embalmed monkey?

377 Ohms

Toe it in, toe it out
Let the wife scream and shout
Slide those chairs all around
watch her howl like a hound.

Those god-damned pictures have to go
The monkey ju ju also so
Ju ju, pictures, firepit
Watch her throw a hissy fit.

Speakers pounding out the sound
Images forming all around
Cork just laughs hysterically
As soundstage expands majestically.

The ol' lady screeching, bloody freaking
As her bones start a creakin'
Bones that jump right through her skin
Erasing Cork's shitty grin

Ulna shoved up Cork's rectum
Tibia deviates his nasal septum
Her patella rips his scrotum
Cork is propped up like a totem

Her skull holes are alit with anger
As she grabs a wire hanger
Gouging woofers, squawkers, tweets
Cackling now Cork's heart she eats.

Cork's spirit now starts to rise
A peaceful look deep in his eyes
For in the light, across the gates
A majestic sight awaits.

He sees a place in the light
Filled with speakers, amps with might
Best of all but could it be?
Not a boundary to infinity.


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Re: Bookshelf or FloorStanding 5.1 System vs. Room Siz
azan14 #446987 12/23/22 02:36 PM
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The monkeys don't frighten me (embalmed, flying, or otherwise); but touching those chairs ... <shivers>

I have the poem copied off, I've been waiting for the right time to frame and hang it next to my speakers. That time generally comes when she's already good and annoyed at me, because I like to double down. I even bought fake antiqued paper. (BTW, my version attributes 'Mojo'.)

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azan14 #446989 12/23/22 03:43 PM
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You just made my month! smile

BTW, you understand the reference to 377 Ohms?


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Re: Bookshelf or FloorStanding 5.1 System vs. Room Siz
azan14 #447000 12/24/22 12:41 AM
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I did not, and I was too embarrassed to ask.
But this time I googled it, and came up with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_of_free_space - which is both fun to know and an awesome title!

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Yup. I don't know if it's awesome or scary the abstractions humans make to describe a world they will never have direct access to.


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