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gotta luv that famous quote by Woodersen also

pardon my laziness for not comparing the specs myself, but if you've got money burning a hole in your pocket, maybe it's worth looking at going to a Denon 2105 or 2805. Much cheaper than the 3805. Then you could spend the money you save on adding some Outlaw Monoblocks or Marantz M9000 (or whatever that one was called).

The processing abilities of the 2105 and 2805 are very similar to the 3805 so you won't lose any functionality, plus you'll have the external amp to build around in the future.

Of course you could always spend the money on something that would be more noticeable especially since you already have a good quality receiver. Upgrade your sub or buy some DVDs or CDs or something.

smokey, if you haven't already pulled the trigger on something else, I would suggest you get just one of those 2 channel onkyo budget amps and use it to power your M60s. I did that (with the same onkyo amp) primarily in order to relieve some of the burden from my Denon 2802 during action movies. With a separate amp for the fronts your receiver only has to power the center and surrounds - a much easier task since they're probably rolled off at 80hz, right?

It may not have been absolutely necessary, but I sure feel better cranking it up loud (don't have to crank as high to achieve the same spl levels either). There seems to be some improvement in action movies when the sh1t is really hittin' the fan - but that could be my imagination.

as for upgrading my sub. i just bought a new vtf3-mk2 hsu sub to go with my axioms. so i don't need a sub. also that hsu sub is a killer i mean it shakes the house at moderate levels. i went and checked out the outlaw mono blocks pretty cool looking unit and they are 200 watts too. but are there prices in american or canadian. i from canada and can't find anyone who deals with them around where i live. so either i'm going to get the outlaw mono block, or upgrade to a projection screen about a 100inch one. was looking at the benQ projectors. i started looking at rotel amps very nice too. but right now its between the projector and outlaw amps. anybody own a projector. how is there picture.

Outlaw is an net direct company like Axiom. There prices are in American $$.

i just finished looking at outlaw amps. nice stuff. i was looking at the model 200 mono blocks. but i see they have a 5 channel amp the 755 model. 200wattsx5. price wise its cheaper to get that then buying 6 model 200. i think i'm going to get the 755 model.if i need one for the surround back i'll get a 200 model for it. have any of you bought from outlaw to be shipped to canada. what kind of taxes and other charges well a guy have to pay for. i live in alberta i think we have a break on some taxes from out of country but we still have some.

Just make pretty darn sure that you will never want to do to 7.1. The 755 is 5 ch. If it were me, I would go with a Denon model an use the monoblocks to power the two fronts (if you even need to). There is not really a need for 200 watts into your center and rears, unless you have a HUGE set up.

Math:
Denon 3803- $550.00
2 Outlaw M200's- $600.00
Total- $1150

Outlaw 755- $1300.00

I kinda disagree with that. I have a sunfire signatue bob carver grand cinema 2 amp. It powers 5 channel. let me tell you it is one hell of a powerful (425 wpc x 5) and very warm sounding amp it is bi-wired current/voltage. The rears are seldom used in the 7.1 config, but with certain material it's awesome, and makes 7.1 worthwhile. (you can make a good arguement for 7.1 not needed for most recoedings. I power my rears with the mono block amp. using the 5 channel amp for the imprtant stuff. I run a 7.1 set-up on a 5 channel amp, with the mono amp,, and it is great. P.S. Outlaw also makes a 7 channel amp, I think outlaw makes a very good amp at it's price point

i'm going to keep my onkyo receiver and i think i'm going to get the 755 model for the simple fact; if i want to upgrade my other channels with mono blocks sepratly it would cost more. the 755 comes with a hookup to hook more amps to it like the mono block 200. so if i want to go 7.1 i'll just get two of them. but i really would like to now what kind of taxes it well be. also if running 5 speakers at 200 and leaving the back surround at 125 well it be noticable.

so you will use the onkyo only as as pre/pro, there will be NO difference @200 watts or 125, the signal will drive them the same unless the signal exceeds 125 on the rears which is highly unlikly, and you will need ear surgery if you listen at those levels.