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Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
#84086 03/07/05 03:52 PM
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Actually Bridgman, i'm not sure if you were referring to an earlier post with your statement or not. I think i may have lost something in your context depending on what you were referring to.
Well the information is useful anyway.


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Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
#84087 03/07/05 06:23 PM
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In reply to:

I pulled the trigger on some Monitor Audio S8s in the Rosemah finish




Very nice and congrats. All my MA stuff is in Rosemah also. Excellent fit and finish. I have never done the MA8's against the M60's but I did get the chance to do the MA10's against the M80's. I don't want to compare them as I don't think that would be fair as they are two vastly different speakers. At the end of the day however, I would have taken the MA10's home every time vs. the M80's as they were more to my liking. I also prefer the MA8's over my M50's but again, I'm not sure we are in all honesty talking apples to apples!

As I still have yet to hear the M60's, I can't say what to expect from your comparison. If I was to guess I would think that the MA's will have better all around bass and slightly more laid back midrange and perhaps a little bit more forgiving on the high side. I have heard the MA8's on a number of occasions and I personally think they are a fantastic speaker.

Last week I spent a few hours with a set of Monitor Audio GR60's.............now you want to talk about a speaker, dam those MA60's are nice set of speakers. If I could wing it financially I would be all over them. I have heard nothing like them.

Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
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Chess, I hear what you are saying. In both of those posts Ian states that the VP150 TWWWT layout eliminates lobing along the lateral axis, although he doesn't say how. I don't have a good explanation for how that would work -- it seems to me that having more drivers would actually make lobing MORE of an issue, not less.

Maybe in 10 years everyone will be advertising "Colquhoun layout" centers and mains. We can only hope.

Alan / Ian, if it's not "proprietary IP" and you see this thread any chance of giving us a hint why the VP150 gets rid of lobing ? There might be a VP150 in my future if that's the case.

There are very few albums where lobing is noticeable on a regular center (VP100 in my case) but being a fan of older Genesis I seem to own most of them. You need a passage with a single, relatively pure, relatively hign frequency tone for some period of time, with the listener moving around the room while the tone is playing -- a.k.a. Steve Hackett on most of the early Genesis albums while I am doing anything other than planting my butt in the sweet spot.


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Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
#84089 03/08/05 04:08 AM
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Have been a long time reader of this forum, and finally decided to become part of it. Last summer I spent a lot of time reading about and listening to speakers. Well, I read about Axioms and listened to Monitor Audios, mainly. I think Chesseroo favorably compared the MA Silver Series to Axioms. So I figured the Monitors would give me a good impression of the Axiom sound. Spent a good two hours at a local hifi shop listening to the MA Silver and Gold series. Went in the morning during a weekday to avoid other customers to do some serious listening. Heck, I didn't even speak to a salesperson for about an hour and a half, which isn't necessarily bad. Close call between the S6 and S8, but in the end I went the the GR 10. They had just a tad more detail in the uppers, and threw out an incredible soundstage. As much as I like GR 10s, I'm still thinking about floorstanders. In any case, congrats on the new purchase. By the way, I know I'm new to the boards, but would love to listen to the S8s and the M60s. I'm not too far from where you are.


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Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
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I'll send you a PM.

Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
#84091 03/08/05 05:16 PM
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Would love to see some pics of those new MA speakers BW.


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Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
#84092 03/08/05 05:24 PM
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I would be happy to oblige, chess, but I don't have them yet. The guy at GG said they should be in today or tomorrow(he was, BTW, a pretty decent fellow. He started off talking about line conditioners, bi-amping, etc... but ended up being more interested in what I have learned from all of you. ).

Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
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More on Joseph D'Appolito:

http://www.usheraudio.com/profile-d'appolito.html
http://www.usheraudio.com/

I have always been an advocate of MA. Great speakers. The rosemah finish is one of a kind. Don't try removing the tweeter cap unless you are certain in its removal. Thats how I dimpled my tweeter.

Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
#84094 03/09/05 02:14 AM
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Saturn, it's funny you bring that up. I spent about 15 minutes on the phone many moons ago with one of Monitors designers and asked about the caps. Did I need to pull them etc. He told me that the sonic difference in the highs is very minute and if I understood him correctly, humans might not be able to even hear it. Very nice fellow by the way. It's a shame they are so blasted hard to contact as once you get to them, they are very helpful.

Now given that, I could swear I hear a change when I pull them but I have left them on all my MA's.

Re: MA Silver 8 and M60 in home demo.
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I went the hi-tech route and bent a paper clip to help remove the screens on my MAs. The magnet is fairly strong and I feared the screen would scratch the tweeter if I slipped. Kind of felt like a high stakes version of "Operation" (without the nerve wracking buzzer!). Really don't notice a sonic difference, no matter how much I try to convince myself otherwise.


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