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#355506 - 09/25/11 04:46 PM Re: Improving Axioms [Re: casey01]
Philippe Offline

Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 282
Well it's a funny thing that you talked about the comparaison between the Axiom and the B&W. I have side by side compare the M3 vs the CM5. Axiom is a great sounding speaker no doubt but the CM5 is actually a way better bookshelf in every area. Now i smile everytime i see people saying that this M3 is as good as any bookshelf out there. Are you considering spending the extra money to get a better sounds/looking. You guys are the only one to know.

I had the pleasure to compare those following model.

Axiom M3 V2
Focal 806V
Usher X-718
Von Schweikert VR-1

As you can see the Axiom is the less expensive bookshelf and by far and yes, it related his performance in the lot. Always depend on what Axiom want. A very low cost product (best bang for the buck products) Or, upgrade thier sound/looking for a cost of course.

But i do thrust Ian and Axiom. The have thier signature of thier own.
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#355507 - 09/25/11 05:03 PM Re: Improving Axioms [Re: Philippe]
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I don't know if I would say the B&W is a WAY better speaker than the M3 without adding "in my opinion".

An M3 (slightly) bested a B&W in blind listening tests at the Axiom get together last year.

It could be argued that the majority of listeners, being Axiom owners, have a preference for that particular sound, but I disagree with the B&Ws being "way" better.
::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

#355508 - 09/25/11 06:36 PM Re: Improving Axioms [Re: MarkSJohnson]
Philippe Offline

Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 282
Indeed Marc you are right, in my opinion...
No matter the test people do i think there's always lot of factor to consider. Room, equipment, etc.
Anyway maybe you found the blind test at Axiom showed you that b&w isn't that "superior" as Axiom. But i found in my test a real difference. Being said, Axiom M3 still a great bookshelf for the value.
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Analysis Plus Black Oval 12&10
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#355510 - 09/25/11 08:12 PM Re: Improving Axioms [Re: Philippe]
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Loc: Quebec, Canada
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#355801 - 09/29/11 04:27 PM Re: Improving Axioms [Re: dakkon]
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Loc: South Florida
However, the Axoim M2 costs 316$ each, while the bowers-wilkins CM1's cost 500$ each... sure there are some differences in materials used.. but would YOU be willing to pay an extra 200$ish for looks/ possibly some sound quality difference?

Actually, the M2's cost $316 per pair, not each. So, a comparison should be considered for a $700-ish cost difference.
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#355826 - 09/29/11 10:44 PM Re: Improving Axioms [Re: Spoiler]
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Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 1846
yeah, i guess your right Spoiler... I think i got side tracked with the unit costs of B&W's and didn't think about axiom listing their speakers by the pair..

#356081 - 10/03/11 03:12 PM Re: Improving Axioms [Re: dakkon]
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To say that I'm excited about a professional studio monitor from Axiom is an understatement! smile

My suggestion is to keep it simple.

Nearfield as opposed to midfield. 6.5 woofer. Powered/bi-amped (possibly D amplification?) and flat and accurate.

If Axiom could bring out a studio monitor in the $1200.00/$1400.00 (pair) range that has the same value/performance as their home audio speakers, you could shake up the industry big time.
"Art is making something out of nothing and selling it."
---Frank Zappa

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