micah, they don't do trade in's anymore for any speaker... so i was told when i called about my M60's.... when i traded up from my VP-150 Ti to my vp-180 i got 208.50$ for the 150...... so about 1/2 or so of retail... this is just what the website was programed to give me, i didn't get a special deal or anything my ti's are around 5 yrs old......