I agree with Wid, I'm 21 and my bro is 19 and we are GREAT sons compared to my friends and my parents friends' kids. My dad never did any "social" favors for me, although he would take me to "R" rated movies and play music than included cussing lyrics, hell, he would cuss at me and my bro like we were adults. Some would think this would present a problem. Solution? Do as I say and not as I do. You gotta problem with that? My dad would beat the hell outta me and problem would be solved. I still love my dad and thank him for making a respectable man outta me.