I'm sort of a counter-culture old dude myself. Did the long hair, rock and roll thing. I can relate. I think there are some parents who fear their kids see them as part of the problem, and sometimes probably rightfully so. Once you have kids it is natural to worry about their well being. My son has friends who I might describe as being in the goth culture. One day a group of them came to the door. I went to tell my son that he had visitors. As a joke, I told him that the Manson family was at the front door.