Thanks for the link skyhawk but no, these computers will not be running MCE and i'm not building a HTPC.
I'm just tired of the buggy ati drivers and software. Granted their software has had alot more time to mature and add features than most, but i've had both hardware and software problems over the years that i've had enough with ATI.
It seems there are so many more options now for all-in-wonder type cards or in the least, good tv tuners, so i thought i would look around.
Beyond Hauppage and Pinnacle, i was not aware of any other mainstream brands that might fit the bill.
