Interesting view Jason, thanks. I was just on the sonicboom site looking at the SVS stuff. Seems electronicsforless.ca is affiliated and they have some old stock on VTF-3 subs. It's a very good deal so I may just jump on that in the end. Looks like I'll save quite a bit going with the M22s over the M60s as well. At least with Axiom I know I can return the M22s for the M60s if need be. Were pretty luck to have that option with Axiom!