Thanks for the review Jay, as I have not yet had time (not sure if I ever will, those days are gone) to systematically compare the 1400 with the 3808, interesting though playing at 0db-2db per nominal 3800 output or any other Denon level, I notice I continue to absolutely LOVE the Audyssey EQ into the 1400, I mean tonight the sound absolutely blew me away again and inspired me to log on to the Axiom boards. Previously I believed more or less in the rough equation of good equipment + moderate to high volume + minimal or no EQ = audio nirvana, but my ears say the equation has been proven wrong.

I find myself interested in what Family Man stated, I have obviously considered using the 3808 to run the four QS8s and the 1400 to run the M80s and VP150 or some similar combo, I suppose it doesn't fit too well with current science of audio, but what do people think, will it make a difference? What's the best combo for powering an Axiom Epic 80/800 speaker setup given 3808/1400 amplification?

Thanks, you guys are the best.

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