BR is a Samsung BD-C6500. The HDMI is running directly to TV so kids can watch movies without avr so I am using analog. I went into the setup menu of BR again this morning and ran the speaker setup. When speakers are set to small the sub defaults as on, when speakers set to large the sub can be on or off. There are no crossover options. There is a test tone built in to speaker setup, when I run the test tone I get no sound from Sub.