So I don't get into a flame war, I would like to state that I have nothing against Pioneer or any other brand. My original attention in buying a new receiver was to get DP2, and something that could handle the m80s. It appears that my excitement over my online purchase of a Denon avr3803 has sadly turned to dust. I ordered the Pioneer vsx-1014 in the hope that it is a slight upgrade over my old Yammie. My gut feeling is that this may not be true, and I'll probably be shipping this back. Historically, instead of getting what I want, I've always settled for what appears to be a deal, or bang for the buck. That's what probably lead me to Axiom, which has turned out to be a very pleasant surprise. Despite online opinions about the Pioneer vsx-1014, it seems unbelievable to me that a $400 receiver can somehow compare to some of the more upscale brands. I guess I'll soon find out.