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In reply to:
An example: Audi ~ BMW ~ Mercedes, whereas Bentley ~ Maybach In reply to:
Hey Dude
I agree with a lot of what has already been said. But if I had to compare the Axioms to a car, I might think of the 350Z. You get the performance of many of the expensive Euro imports, at a more reasonable price. While the styling and design are top notch at the given price point, some of the bells and whistles may be absent. But what really is important, is what is under the hood. Top notch drivers in the case of the Axioms and Nissan's 10 year running, award winning, V6 engine in the case of the 350Z.
Seriously though, even if Axiom put nice wood veneers and on their boxes and charged a bit more for them they would be considered entry level audiophile speakers. But what does that mean. Those are just words and like others have said there is not a small amount of elitism involved in being a "true audiophile". The Axiom's are a very accurate, well designed and decent looking speaker at a very nice price point.
I like driving my z and I like listening to my 60's now if I could just figure out how to squeeze that, and a nice mountain road all into one experience, well... that would be nirvana.
oz
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OK, next we try to compare Axioms to movie stars 
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OK, next we try to compare Axioms to movie stars In reply to:
John
With that avatar of yours I'll have to defer to you on that one.
"Life is what happens while your busy making other plans" John Lennon
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Nah, there never was a Sledge Hammer movie. David Rasche is still appearing in a bunch of new movies, but not as the guy in the avatar (unfortunately).
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I've had the pleasure of driving Honda Accord EXs and Mercedes Benz 240s. Would you say that Mercedes Benz is high end and Honda mid level or economy car? In my opinion there is no comparison. The Honda Accord is a better car in every way. Pretty is as pretty does.
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My brother has a real nice setup:
Rotel RC1070 preamp to a Rotel RB1090 2-Channel amplifier to a pair of Martin Logan Vantages.
It sounds real real super nice and I was wondering about getting my own 2 channel rig... I dont have as much money as he does, so I figured I'd start somewhere cheaper.
That's why I put up this thread, I heard about Axioms, but I dont know much about them.
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Dude, you might want to check out the Audition thread in the Hearing Things forum to see if you live near an Axiom owner, then you can judge for yourself.
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If you like the clarity and imaging of the MLs then I feel confident you would also Like the Axioms. These are strong points of the entire Axiom line. I run my M80s with the Rotel RC 1070 and RB 1080 and the combination sounds excellent.
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My questions regarding the car analogy are thus:
Is the Maybach truly $300,000 better than an S-Class?
Can YOU tell the difference between a $1400 pair of speakers and a $20,000 pair of speakers?
Is the $20,000 pair of speakers REALLY $18,600 better than the $1400 pair?
As they say, if you are asking the question, you probably can't afford it. My answer is this: The Axioms are very high quality speakers for the price. Only a couple of manufacturers in the world can deliver such a high price/performance ratio. And to reiterate: If you can afford the true "high end," meaning pricewise, you probably wouldn't be here asking the question. People at the theoretical "high end" pay more for speaker cables than most of us here have invested in their entire systems (Tharkun included). I'm talking $1000+/ft for speaker cables. So if you are looking for a pair of speakers in the $300-$1500/pair range: Yes, in my opinion, the Axioms are at the "high end." Judging by the reviews Axiom has received they are near the high end for $2000 to $7500 speakers as well, not that you would have to pay anything near those sums.
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Re-reading your original question....
Where does Axiom fit in the overall scheme of things. What level of regular store speakers for instance?
Over the last half a decade or so, to justify my first Axiom purchase nearly five years ago, I've managed to try keep up with the entire audio scene and how Axiom fits overall.
The stuff at B-B and C-C and like that?
No competition from them as reguards the stuff they sell off the shelf. If you go to some of the name brands higher end products that are not generally sold in those stores, then you get into things that are closer to the Axiom performance level, but expect to pay even more for them due to marketing considerations and finishing materials.
When you visit the forums where all varieties of speakers are discussed, the Axiom line-up is usually thought of as being a serious contender for an audiophiles hard earned dollars where a buget is considered. The sound is generally thought to be near to, or the equal of many speakers that sell in the 2 to 3K dollar range.
Part of the price difference of course is the real wood finish and the marketing costs of most of the other brands.
So yes. By all accounts, Axiom makes serious Audiophile grade speakers at a price that mere mortals can afford!
Rich.
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