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Ok, my dad gave me his 30year old Chief Pool Table. We disassembled it and moved it to my place this past Saturday. Still looks like new. Dang that 7/8" thick slate is heavy. Anyway, as you know if you've worked with 3-piece slate tables, you sometimes have a very small seam where the slate pieces go together. It sounds like the best method for filling them is to use beeswax and heat with a torch. Once soft enough you press the wax into the crack. After it hardens, you can take a putty knife and scrape flat the excess. I don't have a torch or beeswax, so was wondering if something else could be used. The cracks are very very small, so most likely you would not know the difference. I just want to do it right before I attach the felt.
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I don't think torches or beeswax are that expensive, are they?
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Randy I believe you can find a BerzOmatic torch kit just about anywhere for less than 30 or so bucks.
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For an application like that I'd be looking at a heat gun rather than a torch. I picked up a cheap one on Ebay for about $10. Aslo good for heat shrink tubing. I use mine more than I use my torch.
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You could pick up a ring of toilet wax ring and forego the torch. That stuff is easy to work with at room temperature and comes with a 10-year no drying or cracking guarantee.
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A buddy of mine just bought a pool table and when the installers installed it, he told me they used Fix-all for the joints. If you haven’t used it, it’s very simple. Just mix what you can use quickly (as it sets up quick), and spread with a putty knife. Sand smooth in about an hour and you’re done.
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Thanks for all the responses guys. I had the pool shop check the bumpers and re-felt the side rails for me. I'll ask them what they recommend, can't be to difficult.
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I've heard of two different products used (one of the arcade guys I talked to in the Build Your Own Arcade Controls forums was an arcade employee)... he said for a quick and dirty setup where they didn't care about future quality, they used all-purpose drywall joint compound. For a stronger, more permanent and better joint, they used subfloor patch like this. My brief stint with a flooring contractor we used a product called Plan-It Patch and I can see the benefit of it. Bren R.
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I had another idea last night Randy. While the fix-all will most likely work just fine and last for years, if you ever move the table, it may chip or crack. Fix-all sets up rigidly and will not flex. That being said, I think that a NON-sanded, latex fortified ceramic tile mortar may just be a better option. Or I should say, that is what I would use unless a professional installer had something better to use. The latex fortified mortars set up hard, adhere to anything, but at the same time, flex - in the event that you decide (or your better half decides) to move the table. A NON-sanded mortar will also be sand able and will spread very smoothly.
Good luck. I’m envious that you have the space for a table. I’d love to have an 8 footer in my home but have nowhere to put one where a miss-cue wouldn’t take out a window.
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Thanks Mr. Drew I can tell you this much, I doubt we will ever move it again, but if we do, the slate is in 3 pieces anyway. It would be impossible to move the table in tact without taking it apart.
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When my table was installed they did not use anything on the joints. I asked why not and he had me close my eyes and slide my hand across the joint. I really had to focus to feel anything. He did use very thin wedges under the table to make sure the slate came together perfectly. Once the felt was installed, I could not fine the joints. The imperfections in the felt was much greater than in the slate. If you don't want the joints you could always get a one piece slate and try and carry it in and put on your table. For an 8" table that would be approx. 900 lbs.
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If you don't want the joints you could always get a one piece slate and try and carry it in and put on your table. For an 8" table that would be approx. 900 lbs.
For an 8" table it would be about 6 lbs... for an 8' table, about 900 lbs.
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However, I have heard that if a ball is rolling along the seam, versus across the seam, it can alter the balls path.
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That's why I always shoot lengthwise.
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That's why I always shoot lengthwise.
I always have to be careful as I Rx my medic8ions, as some of them can make you shoot backwards...
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I always have to be careful as I Rx my medic8ions, as some of them can make you shoot backwards...
That's just a draw shot, Medic... maybe the medication just makes you forget you were playing it.
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Just wanted to show you all the finished product. It sits between the HT area and the bar.
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Looks nice!
You probably don't even know that there are seems now that it is done, right?
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I was going to use Bees Wax, as that is what Muellers Sporting Goods told me to use, however, then I talked to Iowa Bowling and Billiards and they said not to use the Bees Wax, for whatever reason. They recommended I use this, and it worked great.
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I question the "experts" at Muellers. You probably made the better choice.
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the bees wax is very flexible, however, it can dent if you drop a ball on it, this stuff is awesome and manufactured right here in Iowa.
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it can dent if you drop a ball on it
Or if a ball hops onto it... if you have a three piece top, one of these seams will end up fairly close to the top of the rack... a place where the cue ball often gets some height on the break.
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Yep, it was 3 piece slate, around 7/8" I believe, heavy shhhhhtufff.
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That stuff is pretty much the same thing as Fix-all I think. How long can you work with it before it sets up?
Oh, love the color. I bet it's very relaxing on the eye, but still light enough to gauge your shot.
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You mix a little water with it and stir it up to form the putty. Not sure exactly how long you have, but I had plenty of time to fill the two seems. Once hard the excess sanded off smooth as a babies butt. The color matches our bar wall almost perfectly. Sure looks nicer than the originial green color when my dad purchased it back in the 70's.
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You did a nice job on the table Randy. If I ever make it out your way I'll be sure to bring my cue
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That is next on my list, most of the cues we have are the kind you see in bars. However, I'm pretty good with the 21oz'er.
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Dimmit man ... Randy's manufacturing bass traps, acoustic panels, pool table recovering. What's next? I'm really diggin' the pool table Randy, loving the color and the overall look!
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Thanks Rick, I know there are more expensive tables out there, but there is something said when you get one handed down to you by your pops. I remember when my dad bought this brand new back in the mid 70's. I think the brand is Chief, they are not in business anymore.
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