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Re: Sanyo plv z2000 or Epson 1080ub?
jhunt17 #195996 02/12/08 03:58 AM
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I think I'll wait until my trusty Z2 bulb dies, then sell my projector cheap so the new owner just needs to buy a new bulb and they will be good to go. The 1080p projectors should continue to drop like everything else eventually. Heck, I bought my Z2 new for $1800, now you can get them for under $800 smackers.


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Re: Sanyo plv z2000 or Epson 1080ub?
SirQuack #196001 02/12/08 04:06 AM
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myrison, Does avs quality control the ub also? or any other projector? I would be interested in that. Just to make sure the convergence is good and color uniformity is good. It would be nice to know those things ahead of time before it is sent to my door, but what is their return policy?


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Re: Sanyo plv z2000 or Epson 1080ub?
jhunt17 #196007 02/12/08 04:17 AM
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 Originally Posted By: jhunt17
Well, I can't see my budget over 2800 for the projector, plus I agree that you have to calibrate for your own room.


The 1080UB home is 2999 - $200 rebate... $1 within your budget. \:D


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Re: Sanyo plv z2000 or Epson 1080ub?
jhunt17 #196009 02/12/08 04:21 AM
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 Originally Posted By: jhunt17
myrison, Does avs quality control the ub also? or any other projector? I would be interested in that. Just to make sure the convergence is good and color uniformity is good. It would be nice to know those things ahead of time before it is sent to my door, but what is their return policy?


I'm not sure about other projectors, but I've been monitoring the 1080 UB thread for 600+ posts yet and I've yet to hear anyone complain about a projector after it had been QC'd by Jason.

I'd suggest you call him directly to ask if he'd do another PJ if you're interested in something else... these guys are all great to talk to.

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For return policy, it looks pretty friendly. Check it out here:

AVS Return / Warranty Policy


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Re: Sanyo plv z2000 or Epson 1080ub?
myrison #196032 02/12/08 12:26 PM
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^^^^ i find the same results for most, if not all, the PJs that are calibrated by Jason. I think being able to "plug and play" with your brand new PJ is well worth the $200 bucks. later.

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aham23 #196037 02/12/08 01:38 PM
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 Originally Posted By: aham23
^^^^ i find the same results for most, if not all, the PJs that are calibrated by Jason. I think being able to "plug and play" with your brand new PJ is well worth the $200 bucks. later.


Admittedly, I'm totally on the fence with deciding whether to pay the extra $100. I am without a doubt going to pay the first $100 to make sure there are no convergence issues with the PJ.

For the config, after everyone here saying that you have to do it in your own room, I'm less certain whether the 2nd $100 is worth the money for the calibration before it goes out.

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Re: Sanyo plv z2000 or Epson 1080ub?
myrison #196071 02/12/08 04:31 PM
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When calibrating projectors, you put the meter in the beam path and adjust contrast, brightness, primary and secondary colors to set grey scale. You can do this anywhere and it is well worth $100. You can then find out what additional tweaks are needed for screen offset, which you can do yourself. I calibrated mine with the meter in the light path and did not feel the need to re-do with screen offset and I’m using a grey screen. When you get the projector, you will want to throw up a test pattern with pluge bar and adjust contrast / brightness to your liking. After 500 hours, do it again to compensate for initial buld burn in. You should not need to get back into the RBG adjustment after the initial calibration.

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michael_d #196100 02/12/08 06:59 PM
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What is the name of the meter you use and what is the cost? I currently only have one friend with a projector but as I and more friends buy in, I can see the feasibility of buying a shared meter.

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Re: Sanyo plv z2000 or Epson 1080ub?
Murph #196103 02/12/08 07:02 PM
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Thanks Mdrew, that's great advice.


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Re: Sanyo plv z2000 or Epson 1080ub?
myrison #196130 02/12/08 10:14 PM
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I use the Eye1 Pro and Calman software. It was about a grand for the package. You can use less expensive meters and get into this for under five hundred. I use the Eye1 Pro because it will also do printer paper profiles and allow me to calibrate my monitor as well as the projector. If you do decide to take the plunge into video calibration, get comfortable. It's a fairly intence learning curve (but we are all 'tweekers' here, so you should be OK).

You'll also need a laptop, and a LOT of patience. That's why I say the $100 is well spent to have someone do this.

Now if you really want to go crazy, you buy an external video processor with CMS and calibrate the VP output per each source.

Link to Calman... http://www.calman.tv/

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