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Re: av123
LT61 #237713 01/01/09 09:28 PM
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Consider the fact the M22 drop to 2Ohms and nobody has an issue with them!!


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Re: av123
LT61 #237714 01/01/09 09:35 PM
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Seems to me, most people find fourms like this in search of answers. Either to cure a problem with a product or pick a product. If you bought already and are pleased as punch, you are less likely to search out a fourm to exclaim that. If you are upset with a purchase, you always want to vent that.


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Adrian #237750 01/02/09 03:04 AM
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Adrian, yes, some people are making too big a deal out of the impedance ratings. The amplifiers don't know what the impedance of the speakers that they're connected to is, just that they have to supply a certain voltage and current at each moment in time. Some speakers rated at 4 ohms(e.g. the M80s)are easier to drive than some rated at 8 ohms because they're more sensitive and require less power and their impedance curve is relatively flat and doesn't drop below 4 ohms.

My view is that the excessive caution some amplifier and speaker manufacturers demonstrate in this area isn't helpful to the audio consumer.


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Re: av123
St_PatGuy #239656 01/12/09 01:00 AM
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 Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy
Chess wrote up a nice comparison a while back and mentioned the MA Silvers were very similar to the Axiom sound. However, not too long ago he mentioned he rethought his original findings about the MA Silvers, but didn't follow up with specifics.

I did extensive listening to Monitor Audio speakers back in the day. I really liked the S6. It seemed more balanced than the S8--it felt like the extra driver muddied up the sound ever so slightly.


The original starting review is here.
I did do an A/B test with the Tannoys, Axioms and MA GR10s as well but i cannot find the thread.
This search tool is really sucky compared to the old one.


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Re: av123
chesseroo #239686 01/12/09 03:29 AM
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I auditioned some of the speakers mentioned there, inc the Ref Con Energys, the Monitor RS6 and RS8 and the Mission M35's. This is why we all should hear speakers for ourselves....I had vertually the same opinion of the RC Energys, one of disappointment actually as they sounded rather 'mute' or muffled. The RS6s and RS8s are indeed a sweet speaker, nice detail, imaging and sharp but easy to listen to (detailed but not 'bright'). I had a very different opinion of the Missions, however...I felt they lacked detail, too bassy, probably easy to listen to for some because they seemed to lack so much higher up, sounded unatural to my ears. Anyway, we all hear things differently and have our own preferences, and yes, the Energy Veritas are nice too but not at $4g+.


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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
Anyway, we all hear things differently and have our own preferences, and yes, the Energy Veritas are nice too but not at $4g+.
Agree 100% with that. I also really like the Paradigm Studio 100s and Reference S6's and 8's, Focal 918's and 928's, Sonus Faber(forget models), but the cost \:o I will stick with my M80s for many years.


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jakewash #239746 01/12/09 09:41 AM
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I was heavily considering checking out the Rocket 850. They look very well made. I wasn't thrilled to hear about their sub problem and it stemming from their Chinese operations. The 850 is a very large and heavy speaker, Shipping both ways would cost a bit if it turned out you didb;t like them. Still, if I had a larger room I may have given them a try. I'm still a bit concerned with WAF.

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BoB/335 #239775 01/12/09 04:32 PM
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I was on the verge of ordering a set of the 850's on their Black Friday deal, but I knew they wouldn't fit in the doghouse.


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Wid #239781 01/12/09 05:30 PM
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Brandon, per your original question:

I have listened to the M80s

I own a variety of Totem speakers and Onix Mini's plus, XLS in Ferrari Red, as well as their Ref series speakers. Overall, AV123 has nice speakers with extremely high quality finishes. I have had serious issues with both subs from them...given the cost of original shipping and shipping back I am not happy with my sub purchase. I just bought a EP350...delivered 20 minutes ago, I hope I am happy with it. Overall, customer service at AV123 is very good and so far I think Axiom is just as good.

If it was me, I would look at the grounded total cost including shipping, currency conversion and paying duty. Given this analysis, although I like AV123 stuff - especially the Minis, the cost is just too high (it cost me the same as Totem Forests)...I would have chosen a full Axiom system b/c i don't feel the higher price has been justified. Just my two cents but i think i have a enough gear to justify it.....

Too bad Axiom doesn't do a trade-in of competitors gear.

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Leagueleader #239793 01/12/09 07:08 PM
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You could always sell your present gear on Canuckaudio mart or similar place and then buy some more Axiom gear.


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