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I'm not disagreeing, Dave. All musical subs should be in the well designed category, but certainly not all home theatre subs are musical.
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A musical sub is tight (doesn't blur the notes) and fast (doesn't sustain the notes longer than the program material). This would be more acceptable with explosions and the like than music. Here is a good article that talks about the misconceptions of the "musicality" of subwoofers in detail. http://www.axiomaudio.com/tightbass.html
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Brandon, if you want an idea of what Axiom subs sound like try to listen to the Paradigm DSP series, Axiom subs sound very similar IMO and are extremely musical, more life like than most subs for music and they work great for movies with an extension down into the 20hz range and below for the EP800.
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Thanks jake I've herd the dps series and they are great for the money imo . I think the best thing for me is to keep listening to more subs before I buy thanks for everyones help u guys are great , I'm going to see if axiom is open this weekend seeing how I'm going to be up that way anyway
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Dr. House this article is right on point. A quote from it by Ian Colquhoun as follows: "If you really want “tight” bass, then you need to concentrate on the main speakers and amplifier combination because that is where those mid-bass frequencies are and should be generated." INSERT SEMI HIJACK PASSAGE HERE I used to have an SVS PCi25-31 sub and it was musical. Now I have an SVS PC-Ultra and it's also musical. In fact when I play my favorite concert DVDs they sound about the same. The main difference between the two is that with the Ultra I can hear (feel) low frequencies in movies that I never knew were there before. Plus it can shake picture on walls of rooms that don't directly connect with the room it is in. (Lord of the Rings, Return of the King, scene 53) And that pisses off the guy down the street who used to brag about his Martin Logan Depth 1 sub.
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A musical sub is tight (doesn't blur the notes) and fast (doesn't sustain the notes longer than the program material). This would be more acceptable with explosions and the like than music. A well designed sub can do both. I agree with Dewd. The 8" Push/Pull M&K that I just sold was supposed to be a "musical sub" I did not know what I was missing til I got the 500. THe M&K was boomy no matter what sound it was reproducing - musical bass or volcanic eruptions. THe guy that bought it - when he contacted me said he was looking for a musical sub. I just smiled and took his money.
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I was looking at the hsu vtf3 , does anyone have one ? Looks to be built well weighing 90lbs . Do they not have the turbochargers anymore ? I only saw them in the previous model section . I listened to the paradigm ultracube 12 today it was very nice for music but didn't go low enough for movies , any other recomendations would be great thanks
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I run a Hsu VTF3 mkII. I'd say it's about 5 years old now. I use it primarily for HT now, but I have used it for music as well. Handles both very well--articulate while still being able to provide a punch.
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