Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners subwoofers

I use a Hsu STF 3 with my music system. It sounds great to me with no boominess to it. It is no more than a higher tuned (22HZ) VTF 3.

I believe you would be very happy with the Hsu.

If you considered the Paradigm ultra cube and that price was not out of range and you are looking at Hsu, an internet direct company, I would highly suggest looking at the SVS PB 13 Ultra. It is a bit more money(when I was looking at subs) than an Ultra Cube 12 but well worth it, IMO. I have the PB13 and it hit 15hz in my room(when tuned to 15hz) and sounds great when I play music, all the reviews on it are not wrong.

Another option might be looking through Canuckaudiomart to see what is available used, I have seen the MFW15 available from a few listings and they were in Canada.

I would not recommend buying a used MFW-15. There has been a fair share of quality control problems with that sub due to amp failures. The warranty is not transferable to a new owner. Caveat emptor!

The SVS PB13 ultra is a killer sub by the way.

Good to know about the amp issues, I hadn't been following the MFw after it was realeased, only remembered it was touted as being nearly the equal to the PB13 for half the price.

Yes, the MFW's had an extremely high failure rate in the last year or so. So bad they had to do a partial re-design of the amp.

A single PB13 outclasses a single MFW in performance. Well worth the extra money for the ultra in my opinion.

I got a price for a ultracube for 1200 taxes in canadian from my dealer because I buy a lot of stuff from him but the price I got for a pb13 ultra was 1999.99 plus taxes . So if they were closer it would be a no brainer but its to much for me . I still really want to hear the ep500 , its the same price as the ultra cube . That's a hard toss up between them I'm sure . I would imagine the ep would go lower but I'm not sure seing how the ultra has 150 more watts and 2 10" passive radiators to make up for the smaller size . To clear things up small size is of no importance to me .

You can't compare the watts equitably, because a sealed design will require much more power (even with the passive radiators) than a ported design for the same SPL. Likewise, it is very difficult to design a sealed design that will go as low as a similarly-good ported design. Finally, the Axiom amp has extensive DSP capabilities. You owe it to yourself to listen to an EP500.

Not only that Tom but it also has to do to the sensitivity of the driver.

Yeah, but the DefTech goes to 11.