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#376465 - 05/17/12 12:38 PM Audyssey weirdness
Ken.C Offline
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Hey guys,

So I've run Audyssey on the new Onk and ended up with some weird stuff. First off, it set my VP100 to 40 Hz crossover. Easy enough to fix, but odd.

Next, there don't seem to be that many Audyssey settings exposed. I can't find any info on the EQ, and it only seems to have 3 modes: Off, Music, and Movie.

With Music, I found that it added quite a lot of reverb, at least when used with DPL2. Anyone else run into this?

With Off, I noticed that the surrounds sounded extremely wrong, particularly on a Sting track from Mercury Falling, where I was hearing a snare drum first from the fronts, then with a very perceptible delay from the side surrounds, or possibly bouncing off the wall behind. I didn't try the track with the Audyssey Music setting or with any other surround modes. My wife gets ... less than amused when I mess with the sound while she's listening to things. wink

Any tips? What am I missing here? In general, it sounds good, but it is definitely odd.
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#376466 - 05/17/12 12:43 PM Re: Audyssey weirdness [Re: Ken.C]
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This makes me glad I've got a Pioneer with the 1 mic setup. Never had a problem.

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#376469 - 05/17/12 01:21 PM Re: Audyssey weirdness [Re: Ken.C]
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Hi Ken,

You likely know what I'm going to say: turn off Audyssey!
That reverb effect sounds really gross. I have no idea why that's happening.

Honestly, with wide-range neutral, linear speakers like Axioms, Audyssey will only screw things up. Neither I, nor Ian, nor Andrew (Welker)use it. If you want to play with it, go ahead (when your wife isn't around). If you had crappy speakers with non-linear response, of which there are many, I'd say, sure, Audyssey may help quite a lot. But with Axioms, you just don't need it.

I admit there may be some utility to Audyssey for the bass octaves, but otherwise, it's error-prone, as you've discovered.

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#376471 - 05/17/12 01:26 PM Re: Audyssey weirdness [Re: Ken.C]
Ken.C Offline
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Well, here's the thing. I THINK I have Audyssey EQ turned off when it's set to Off, so all that's left is the calibration. Which sounds like it's set the distance on the surrounds all screwy, but the numbers appear to be right. So I'm not sure what might be going on.
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#376474 - 05/17/12 01:30 PM Re: Audyssey weirdness [Re: Ken.C]
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Now I'm liking my new(ish) HK3600 even more.

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#376475 - 05/17/12 01:31 PM Re: Audyssey weirdness [Re: Ken.C]
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Y'alls so much help.
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#376477 - 05/17/12 01:34 PM Re: Audyssey weirdness [Re: Ken.C]
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I'd throw that Onkyo in the trash and go buy a Pioneer.

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#376481 - 05/17/12 01:46 PM Re: Audyssey weirdness [Re: Ken.C]
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Ken, that reverb-effect doesn't sound right. I wonder if a speaker is out-of-phase?
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#376483 - 05/17/12 01:53 PM Re: Audyssey weirdness [Re: Ken.C]
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I was about to say the same thing. I've never had (or even heard of) Audyssey or MCACC creating any tpye of reverb effect. There are separate "modes" or "effects" settings in the receiver for that; make sure they are all turned off or disabled or set to standard.
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#376486 - 05/17/12 02:02 PM Re: Audyssey weirdness [Re: Ken.C]
J. B. Offline
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Ken, have you read the tips and instructions about using Audyssey in AVS forum?
make one mistake in calibration or with the adjustments after calibration and Audyssey does not seem to be a good program.




Edited by J. B. (05/17/12 02:05 PM)
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