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Having a good sh*t filter is an essential life skill. Filter the alarmists on both sides and look at what is left.

There is plenty of direct evidence of how we have been affecting local climates for a very long time. It is not much of a leap to look at possible global consequences. Given the complexity of global climate, it is no surprise that


And if you listen to the more rational voices on the global warming side, they will agree with you. Carbon credits are a 'sound bite' solution. That does not invalidate the base research on global warming.

Pointing at the global warming crowd and claiming its all about the money seems a strange argument to me. There is exponentially more money being made pumping oil, digging coal and fracking shale. If small money is corrupting the soul of all science, it is surely exponentially corrupting the soul of all 'big energy'.

It is getting warmer alarmingly fast. As fast as the worst warming events in history like say, when volcanos were erupting faster than zits on a teenager's face. Sure, when volcanos erupt the spew a lot of stuff into the atmosphere. That could accelerate global warming. Problem is, there is no zitfest going on this time. Red herring. The same can be applied to most of the stuff coming from the anti global warming side.

After you filter all the sh*t from both sides, the best evidence still points to human induced warming.

Ya, I know 2x6, the sky is falling. Not really. I'm an optimistic guy. Even if the worst is true and we manage to kill ourselves off, the cockroaches and bacteria will manage just fine. They'll most likely be partying hearty long after we are gone as a species, whatever our final end.

The real question -- and I'm actually surprised nobody has brought this up -- is how the increase in average global temperature (regardless of its cause) will affect the sound coming from our speakers??

Does this mean we'll be listening to a lot more Ice-T?

fred:

Check out the historic volcanic activity at this site:

http://volcanic-eruptions.findthedata.org/

I found it to be quite interesting. The list includes 617 eruptions rated from 'non-explosive' to 'colossal' in our recent geological history. It seems to me that there is a continual 'zitfest' going on.

The scariest one for us in western North America, & perhaps even farther, is the sleeping giant, Yellowstone's Super Volcano, WY.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/04/13/yellowstones-supervolcano-surprisingly-humongous/

It is surmised that it may blow its top again sometime; however, for much of North America, climate change will be the least of our worries...

TAM

I think I've already started to experience some of what is to come... at 95 deg F and 95% RH the bass seems to hit a little harder, you know, with the higher air density, and all

funny, but i always thought and felt that higher air temps mean lower air density...

open the fridge door, and the cold air drops down to your feet;
start the heater, and the warm air goes up towards the ceiling...

;-)

You're correct. PV=nRT, and all.

Increasing the humidity or temperature of the air makes it less dense. With air molecules packed less densely, they travel further before bumping into their neighbors as a sound wave propagates through the gas. This results in faster transmission of sound.

That sounds Scientific.

Run him outta town!

Hey man, I was only second author on that research paper. I'm not totally corrupt.

Yeah, but you must be funded by either the gubmint or BIG OIL, and therefore ... a WITCH!