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#432459 - 06/04/19 04:08 PM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: gmpirate]
Mojo Offline
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Blair, I was thinking of setting up my living room with floor seating, Japanese style, but I'd have to lay the M100s horizontally. Do you think the family of curves allows for that?
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#432530 - 06/12/19 04:23 PM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: gmpirate]
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Ok, currently the setup is going like this:

Denon x4500h
ADA 1000 3 channel
V160 HP
M5HP x2
Big SVS sub
QS8's x4 for sides & rears

I'm considering adding 2 pairs of ceiling M3's for Atmos. The ADA will power the fronts and center leaving the surrounds to the Denon. Can the Denon also handle the ceiling speakers too? What about another set of sides as well? Since we frequently watch movies in the dining areas (behind the normal living room seating) I though an extra set of sides would make the experience better.

Was also considering replacing the QS8's with on wall M3's to match. I currently only have one pair of the QS8's (2nd pair on order).
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Denon x4500h
ADA-1000 x3
VP160HP
M5HP x2
M3OW x2 sides
M2OW x2 rears
M3 In-Ceiling x4

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#432532 - 06/12/19 06:29 PM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: gmpirate]
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Originally Posted By gmpirate
Ok, currently the setup is going like this:

Denon x4500h
ADA 1000 3 channel
V160 HP
M5HP x2
Big SVS sub
QS8's x4 for sides & rears


I'm considering adding 2 pairs of ceiling M3's for Atmos. The ADA will power the fronts and center leaving the surrounds to the Denon. Can the Denon also handle the ceiling speakers too? What about another set of sides as well? Since we frequently watch movies in the dining areas (behind the normal living room seating) I though an extra set of sides would make the experience better.

Was also considering replacing the QS8's with on wall M3's to match. I currently only have one pair of the QS8's (2nd pair on order).


Yep, Denon could handle that. I'm running 8 M3s off mine currently (4 surrounds + 4 Atmos). 4500 has processing for 11 channels, and amplification for 9.


Edited by bman84 (06/12/19 06:39 PM)
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2x M5HP
VP180
8x M3
ADA1000
Denon 4500H
SVS SB-3000 (dual)

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#432534 - 06/12/19 08:35 PM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: gmpirate]
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Great! good to know.

Ok, here's what I'm considering now.

Denon x4500h
ADA 1000 3 channel
V160 HP
M5HP x2
Big SVS sub
M22 on wall's for sides (because of refurbished deal)
M2 on wall's for rears (because M3's are too tall to fit on 12" ceiling beam)
M3 in ceilings x4

Since price would not be an issue, why not go with M22's for the sides?

M3 on-wall's for the rear would not be visually appealing dropping below the beam so I'm thinking M2 on-wall's. Is this a big deal in sound? Would in-ceiling M3's for rears be better than on-wall M2's? I hear that rears are the most insignificant speakers in the setup so maybe its not so bad a place to compromise . . .
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Denon x4500h
ADA-1000 x3
VP160HP
M5HP x2
M3OW x2 sides
M2OW x2 rears
M3 In-Ceiling x4

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#432537 - 06/12/19 09:41 PM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: gmpirate]
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I know Debbie told you to go 160HP but I strenuously object and recommend you go with a 180 non HP. You're in a big room, 20 ft MLP and the 160's single mid will strenuously object along with me. smile

Thinking more about it, M22s for the sides make more sense than M3s. Surround effects are all about middle to high mids and low highs where the M22s excel. They are also more sensitive.

On-wall is always better than in-ceiling for the rears.
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M80,VP150,QS8x4,EP600 v2
ADA-1000-2,3,1500-3
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#432539 - 06/12/19 10:32 PM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: Mojo]
bman84 Offline
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Originally Posted By Mojo
I know Debbie told you to go 160HP but I strenuously object and recommend you go with a 180 non HP. You're in a big room, 20 ft MLP and the 160's single mid will strenuously object along with me. smile


Agree! The ability to pull twice the power from the ADA helps too.
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2x M5HP
VP180
8x M3
ADA1000
Denon 4500H
SVS SB-3000 (dual)

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#432540 - 06/13/19 02:20 AM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: gmpirate]
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Well, the main MLP is 11 - 12'. The secondary MLP is 20' when watching from the dining room. I just wanted something loud enough to project to the secondary position, not necessarily prioritize it. Plus, I just ordered new cabinet doors to accommodate the larger VP160 size center -- $600.
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Denon x4500h
ADA-1000 x3
VP160HP
M5HP x2
M3OW x2 sides
M2OW x2 rears
M3 In-Ceiling x4

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#432541 - 06/13/19 08:48 AM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: gmpirate]
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Well OK then. It sure will be better than your 150!
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M100,VP160,QS10HPx2,EP800,M5HP,M3,M50 v4
M80,VP150,QS8x4,EP600 v2
ADA-1000-2,3,1500-3
Air N2

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#432543 - 06/13/19 11:14 AM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: gmpirate]
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Here's the room(s) with the pending setup.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/UoG2XGu8mikU2yLf6

Given the room(s) constraints, how do the speaker locations look?


Edited by gmpirate (06/13/19 11:25 AM)
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Denon x4500h
ADA-1000 x3
VP160HP
M5HP x2
M3OW x2 sides
M2OW x2 rears
M3 In-Ceiling x4

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#432544 - 06/13/19 01:56 PM Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's? [Re: gmpirate]
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Looks good! My only suggestion would be to use the same speakers for side surrounds as you do for the rears. If the M2 is the only thing that fits in both locations, then so be it. You don't want an audio object to sound different as it moves from side to back.
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2x M5HP
VP180
8x M3
ADA1000
Denon 4500H
SVS SB-3000 (dual)

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