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BTW, these are also the first Axioms that I can put right against the wall and the bass is just uncanny. Tight, thick yet fluid and oh so loaded with energy.

Are you sure it’s actives and not just LFR s ... bet what you might be asking for is an LFR in a M5 package ... active is a refinement. Craig might have more insight here ...

Maybe you are right, Rich. One thing I can try is to mute the rears and see what happens. BTW, I have not been able to get the "stereo everywhere" effect that Ian and Craig rave about. As soon as I shift away from my MLP, the stereo imaging collapses.

When I move these into the basement, I'll have more space there to experiment. That won't be for some time though. I want to get my fill of them upstairs first.

Rich, there is no question the rears add expansiveness to the soundstage and help them disappear. The fidelity I hear though isn't due to their LFR nature but rather the digital, active filtering. You will very easily hear details and imaging with these that are completely masked in Axiom passives.

Since Craig is too busy to give numbers, I'll start the math show. Sitting 10 feet away, with 1000-2 powering the woofers and 1000-8 powering all else, I'm getting 116dBC peaks. That was with my Pioneer cranked to the limit. This was straight 2.0.

I wasn't hanging around for that one so I can't tell you if it sounded clean or not but the whole house was ablaze. I also can't tell you if any of the ADA channels shut down. To say the bass was palpable is a big under-statement.

The bottom line from all this is the 1000 appears to be more than capable of powering these in my 4200 cuft space.

I just did a quick calc based on the published sensitivity of the actives. That 116dBC figure represented about 800 peak Watts per side. So according to the specs for the actives, they've got 3600 more Watts to go before they compress. Ears and brains will fry long before that. LOL!

I have to add here that with these speakers, a comfortable listening level to the song I used for peak testing is -30 on the Pioneer. So...tons of headroom.

That song is Hit the Road Jack.

https://open.spotify.com/track/2F1NPECOyqEyimPu5TEY8P?si=-QfepfKeTdC4a3ochJXtGg

The dual 500s add absolutely nothing to songs like the one above or Burning Down the House. They are indeed working but are simply not needed. And OMG, I never thought I'd say this about a pair of speakers but the bass is absolutely sublime!

Reading this isn’t making the waiting any easier but man I’m getting excited

Ok, the imaging in my terrible living room, with no calibration to speak of other than tweaking the speaker positions, is just crazy stupid good. In DSOTM Money, when the money is being ripped, I can actually "see" the tearing starting at the tweeter and expanding out as it's being torn. On the same album, I can resolve tiny details that are merely inches (degrees?) apart. Placing sounds behind or forward of each other is no problem whatsoever.

I'm just a sucker for audio VR. Lol!

I'll bet if one can get these far enough away from the front wall, the soundstage will be hugely deep. I'll be able to do this in my basement.

Recall I have zero EQ on because I have a legacy receiver. No EQ needed. Holy crap! I absolutely hate Ian and Andrew. You bastards!

The thing is guys, you can't possibly know what you're missing until you hear it. I thought the M5s and M100s were good. Lol!