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Its freakin' amazing how I don't need EQ. I would have never believed it unless I heard it!
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That won't work. It will block the show for the neighbors. Wuss - they make a horizontal version.
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I'm out of excuses. Bring them on! 
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A subwoofer that is linear from 32 Hz up to and passed the crossover point, and that can do so at high levels, will give one amazing music performance, as well as cinema.
Too many subs were going after the 20 Hz output level and forgetting linearity.
What you are experiencing a speaker with three built in "subwoofer" drivers that are tuned to about 38 Hz and linear to 34 Hz. The lowest frequency of a 4 string bass guitar is 40 Hz, while even the largest kick drums are usually at 40 Hz or above.
You are also getting this linearity out to the 200 Hz crossover, which means the harmonics of the fundamental frequency are presented flawlessly in your system.
This adds up to what you consider to be the "best subwoofer."
Properly set up, the EP-500 can add a lot to your actives, but it will take work. I did a lot of listening. I swear the subs are doing nothing. If anything, they're making things worse. Keep in mind I don't listen to bassotronic - just normal music. But like you say, maybe I need to do a lot more work.
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Craig, in order to get my LFRs to play nicely with the 500s, I think I need to replace their Axiom wiring with Nordost Valhalla 2 Reference cables. Agree?
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Craig, in order to get my LFRs to play nicely with the 500s, I think I need to replace their Axiom wiring with Nordost Valhalla 2 Reference cables. Agree? Stop it. 
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Mojo - another idea to try is to leave your LFR-1100's running full range. Run jumper speaker wires from the 1100's woofer's binding posts to the speaker level input on the 500.
Set the crossover to 40 Hz on the 500's and adjust to taste.
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Hey Craig, the DSP allows you to run the LFRs full range and adjust the 500's crossover to your heart's content. That's how it is now. Thing is, I don't hear the 500s doing anything unless I turn them up so much that it becomes distracting.
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From Ian:
"We have kept the control on the DSP so it only affects the LFR1100. The output to the sub is always full range. This allows you maximum control as the LFR1100 and the sub are controlled separately; the LFR1100 from the DSP, and the sub from the crossover adjust on the sub. Setting the crossover to 0 on the DSP would mean the LFR1100 is running full range but it would have no affect on the output to the sub."
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