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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
Mojo #434705 12/10/19 01:52 AM
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The bass on my actives is so much more satisfying than my 500s or 800. I think it might be the difference in mid-bass...not sure...


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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
Mojo #434773 12/16/19 08:04 PM
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Time for some more maths and numbers.

I played my favorite tune today for bass peaks (see link below). This is the tune that shuts down my ADA with M5s long before my ears give out at 10 feet away. That happens at about 1:33 where the M5 draws in excess of 340W. This is right about at the 375W single channel peak limit of the ADA.

Shut-down is not a problem with the active 1100. At 10 feet away, I can push the actives to 116dBC which is the absolute limit of my pre-amp and more than 10dBC above my ears giving out.

This brings up the matter of how close to the limit is the single channel that feeds a trio of HP woofers at that tremendous bass peak. I can say now that the 1000 still has a few volts it can go before it shuts down.

This means the power of the 1000/active LFR combo is a good choice for a 2-channel set-up in large and even very large rooms.

https://open.spotify.com/track/2F1NPECOyqEyimPu5TEY8P?si=op24PPfZSH6qsnRV0HUkYg


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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
Mojo #434783 12/16/19 11:15 PM
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One other worthy note of a recent change in my M100 system. As I've reported, my M100s did not disappear as well as the M5s in my main space. I re-arranged my furniture and now have a recliner at my MLP. I've found when I lean the recliner back a foot, the M100s completely disappear like the M5s.


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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
Mojo #434787 12/17/19 12:47 AM
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My twin 500s needed about 20 hours for break-in. No idea what had to break in but they sure sound more awesome! I can't say I experienced the same thing with my 800 but then again, Ian had worked that one in pretty good in the chamber before sending it to me.


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Mojo, I’ve been listening to Kind of Blue tonight and have to say the width of the sound stage on the actives is just fantastic. On ‘So What’, when Coltrane comes in on tenor at 3:27 he seems so far out to the left and then Adderly hits right back on alto on the right...

https://open.spotify.com/track/195PCdTb9A1iicUZBmspwg?si=Cuwo4VNnSKGR2kjIG15-Rg

Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
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Such a great find. Thank you!


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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
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For a woofer and mid-woofer work-out. I love this with the M100/800/dual 500 combo but it's more frightening on the actives.


https://open.spotify.com/track/4RaUQtDq09wwhlndTYSfga?si=nVppnpqjSuGdpNs4N0k1yg


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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
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Those with actives, power off your woofers and listen to what a pair of active M22s would sound like.


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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
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I find I get a wider soundstage with the front tweeters powered off, all other drivers on.

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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
Mojo #434815 12/18/19 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Mojo
Those with actives, power off your woofers and listen to what a pair of active M22s would sound like.

Don’t you think that if axiom developed active M22 they would try and extend its low end a bit more then where the xover on the active LFR cuts over to the wooffer ...

But I get you take...

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